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kakobreklaaa: you can see its MP by the quality of image
Diablo-D3: Ive seen the episode
Diablo-D3: I cant find it without the fucking polish
Diablo-D3: apparently its a polish translation of monty python
Diablo-D3: I have no clue what th eguy is saying, btw
mircea_popescu: i am lol. not all stuff shows tho. but srsly, leave comment.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: use html5 then
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 well, post there, and name it would you
mircea_popescu: guess the source, win 1 bitcoin.
dub: and I offered no bullshit sob story like the preceedign few asshats
dub: last one was for drink driving I was only just over teh limit
mircea_popescu: lol just how many times did you get convicted ?
dub: then the last lady judge I stood before actually apologised as she convicted me
mircea_popescu: but otherwise... better not start fucking up with the wrong people. so life goes.
dub: my lawyer said 'yes that is unusual' and that was that
dub: without $10k's to fight it when I was 18 I'm stuck with it
dub: my fucked by a lady judge comment e.g. relates to a completely illegal ruling I had against me
mircea_popescu: the burden of persuasion is on the court/legal system i'm affraid.
dub: including illegal things
dub: well reality is the court can do most anythign it wants and does
mircea_popescu: no court has the authority to issue secret orders.
dub: capslock, the difference between following and not following court orders
mircea_popescu: it's bullshit and you'd have to be an idiot to follow it.
mircea_popescu: is all i have to say
Ukto: you cannot even defend yourself to the judge or explain the gag order
Ukto: is that if your actions of no information lead to a court
mircea_popescu: since anyone can claim this
mircea_popescu: the stupidity of the us government shines through : by making such bs gagged stuff the law of the land there, they've empowered any scammer anywhere
mircea_popescu: As of 19 November 2012, Crypto x Change stopped allowing trades. There have been a couple of incidents in which we are not allowed to make public which have forced us to close the exchange.
mircea_popescu: hey, anyone knows the people developing planeshift ?
Ukto: when done you end up on the myassets page
Ukto: mircea_popescu: cancel button on the order books now works
mircea_popescu: it's a tough world out there.
mircea_popescu: any children you have may not be yours but the milkman's
mircea_popescu: and it gets worse than that
mircea_popescu: in that sense, united states is an oxymoron.
Ukto: yelp. welcome to #bitcoin-asshats. :P
jcpham: seems like an oxymoron to me
mircea_popescu: for sure not. they're btc assets
jcpham: they aren't exactly all assets in the conventiuonal sense
jcpham: my only point is that many of the so-called assets, the name of this channel
mircea_popescu: in fiat you pretty much HAVE TO
mircea_popescu: in btc you have this advantage, that cash makes sense.
mircea_popescu: well, not like you have to.
jcpham: that's why i can't give my btc to any entity
mircea_popescu: maybe they just stole it a la that broker that mixed client funds recently.
mircea_popescu: maybe they just stole it a la madoff
mircea_popescu: maybe they got one of those "secret" presidential orders to steal your money.
mircea_popescu: one day you go to your bank, they tell you to fuck off. what now ?
jcpham: the passage of time
mircea_popescu: what time ?
pigeons: well there is some level of counterparty risk in most things that involve a counterparty
mircea_popescu: how is this different from a bank account!
jcpham: any bitcoins i give to someone to control some thing are gone
jcpham: if it isn't on the blockchain, it isn't real
mircea_popescu: one day the bank tells you to fuck off. what then ?
jcpham: one lesson i forgot somewhere along the way and then re-learned
Ukto: dont get into clinton.. "Your honor, that depends. How do you define 'IS'?"
jcpham: bonds and intangibles that bear fruit
jcpham: but i have some serious issues with this concept
jcpham: i think i'm specifically talking about intangibles
mircea_popescu: jcpham there's an or in there
jcpham: because you lose that once you give up your btc
jcpham: it seems to be me that assets based on bitcoin are bullshit
jcpham: tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled
jcpham: Anything tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled to produce value and that is held to have positive economic value is considered an asset.
Ukto: oh. n/m. i misread that
Ukto: well, at least not worth anyones time
burnside: that's what I'm getting at. part of the value is "how much depth is there backing up this price?"
jcpham: who knows what the difinition of an asset is?
Ukto: would be too inacurate
Ukto: it emptied the market
Ukto: cause alot of times, like when I used glbse
Ukto: i think
Ukto: burnside: thats not worth the trouble
Ukto: there, total total done
burnside: give a value along the lines of "if I want to liquidate now, what would I get?"
burnside: I need to figure out how to make it take the order book into account tho.
burnside: yeah, ltc-global/btc-tc has that in one of the portfolio tabs... definitely good to have.
Ukto: although, i really should add a total total price
Ukto: burnside: also, on BF, under the held assets page, it gives an est. value per asset based on last trade price
mircea_popescu: more bang for the gang!
pigeons: hey its burnside, the gang's all here
burnside: which I definitely need to hand off to someone that isn't colorblind.
burnside: and I guess the css file
burnside: only diff between the two sites is a config file
burnside: Ukto, nah, it's same codebase as litecoinglobal.com, so over there you can see it reads: "trading of assets in ltc"
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112443.msg1226443#msg1226443 lol. this guy should be on irc
Ukto: arent all asset exchanges doing it that way?
Ukto: also.. under what unique about btctc. you write trading of assets in btc...
Ukto: your gonna charge 0.01btc per withdraw and 0.2% trading fee?
burnside: yup, that's the one.
Ukto: yeh, its the same
Ukto: similar enough to 'its kinda shitty' :P
Ukto: they mentioned it, i opened it and said 'wow. layout needs a crap ton of work'
burnside: what was the url you were at?
Ukto: i was talking to someone in pm
burnside: it has 2 images. the favicon, and the geotrust label.
mircea_popescu: i literally typed it out
mircea_popescu: if you did prolly not here tho