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kuzetsa: ... I haven't had any major need
to play with
the native version of
the android SDK either
kuzetsa: if you make android native apps,
they natively call
the android C libraries and whatnot
Ukto: I never wrote a native android app. I only used corona since it was Lua and fast
to do what i needed
kuzetsa: a few under
the hood differences like
that which make very little difference in how you code your apps
Ukto: that makes sense
then
kuzetsa: the android apk files are basically just dalvik. and all
that is is a compiled format which is an api-compatible-ish container similar
to a java jar file
Ukto: w/o going
too overboard
Ukto: back
to debating how
to do a nice secure api
Ukto: pisses me off when I cant find
things
tho :/
Ukto: dont remember
the reference
Ukto: was
thinking it was cause he was invovled in creating hte process, might be wrong.
Ukto: I just remember
thinking it was interesting, and I remember seeing dalvik mentioned
kuzetsa: end user... so I'd rather not read
the paper anyway
Ukto: i'm not worried about how
they use it
kuzetsa: it affects me more as a developer
than it might as a security "conscious" (paranoid)
Ukto: it described how
they do some shit, and send a push
type call
to
the phone directly
to download
the app
kuzetsa: I've directly dealt with
the google apps distribution platform
Ukto: kuzetsa: I'll find
the info on it sooner or later
mircea_popescu: so with a bittle lit of luck i'ma sell
the planescape project on using bitcoin in
their game.
Ukto: was like a year ago
tho
Ukto: stumbled on it, when I was looking into how
to do forced app updates
Ukto: lemme find
the paper 1 sec
Ukto: you dont just 'download' an app from
their store
Ukto: that lets google install w/e
they want on your phone, and even without your knowledge/consent. :P
Ukto: hes
the one
that designed
the rather interesting app "push" system
kuzetsa: dalvik being
the guts of most apps on google's android OS
kuzetsa: oracle
tried
to claim dalvik was infringing on
their acquired "sun" java platform because
the APIs were basically identical
Ukto: google
tries
to enforce copyrighting apis? 0,o
Ukto: i never saw
that one. nice oracle
pigeons: "black market" unless a lawyer you meet on
the
train
tells you its illegal
kakobreklaaa: oh yes i
thought it looked familliar at first glance
pigeons: Ukto:
that python script is actually
the original official glbse client
Ukto: you guys
think api key + api pin is secure enough?
Ukto: because he didnt post
them
Ukto: there are some he's missing, but
thats because nefario never
told anyone but me. heh
Ukto: he made api calls
to create assets.
Ukto: just let
the client send
the cmd directly
Ukto: your just writing
the cmd if you do it with mod
Ukto: he could barely get ruby
to work
Ukto: he wasnt
that advanced
mircea_popescu: i chose
to stfu, on
the
theory
that unless you're an idiot you'll figure it out yourself in short order.
Ukto: fucking glbse api system. now
that I see it,
there is no way I will use 50,00 fake subdirs for api calls
Ukto: i was annoyed at having
to figure it out just
to use it
Ukto: its all over
the place
Ukto: I stay away from
that rats nest of api crazyness
jurov: maybe
try making it similar
to mtgox
Ukto: yeah,
thats what
they all say :P
Ukto: I honestly wish I could see GLBSE's api command list again. cant find it on google anywhere. not because i wanna just copy it, but because I want ppl
to be able
to use old glbse
trading scripts by just changing
the url
Ukto: mebbe its just
the best way
Ukto: rather
than just sent api_key, api_pin, cmd, array(key=value)
Ukto: and
trying
to
think of a really clever way
to do it
Ukto: have sto setup
the json api..
jurov: okay. gotta go sweat it off
to
the gym
mircea_popescu: i
think in general
there's
this expectation on
the part of website owners
that
they have license
to alter history
mircea_popescu: they weren't expecting a user
to go
through a broker, and
thus have actual proof of
their bs shady dealings
mircea_popescu: than just
the straight exchange. amply displayed in
the case of icbit
mircea_popescu: seems
to me
the broker-exchange structure is inherently safer
jurov: why didn't i
think of such?
jurov: so if i empty btct wallet,
they'll just revert
to previous backup, and all will be dandy
jurov: o any mistakes you make are far harder
to fix
than if you were running your own exchange where you probably would eat a BTC loss out of
the wallet but could easily revert
to a previous backup.
mircea_popescu: the argument is pretty retarded, "your honor, I
thought jurov was a broker" "well... did you wire him money ?"
jurov: oh, can we have
this immunity extended
to coinbr?
jurov: and I'm going
to my
tax directorate branch
tomorrow,
to get official acknowledgement
that i'm doing imaginary
trades
jurov: yeah borderline
trolling
pigeons: wow borderline scammer accusation from
the operator of a borderline exchange in a borderline currency
pigeons: yeah i'm sure
those words are magic
pigeons: people used
to put
that on video game ROM download sites
jurov: so, mircea_popescu, of it all comes
that we should get some legal affidavit
that
that nothing we
trade is real.
jurov: oh, and i also need insurance. usagi, you
there?
jurov: while
the same person says
that
that
to say about myself
that i'm a broker, i need some certificate, lol
jurov: to evade accusations
that i'm "borderline scammer", eh?
jurov: so, apparently i need
to slap "The use of
this site is for educational and entertainment purposes only." on coinbr
mircea_popescu: you know, of all
the
things i could be after i die, i guess "that voice in
the head of psychopaths
telling
them what
to do" wouldn't be
the worst...
smickles: well, damn, i just had
to be
taking care of my daughter, rather
than refreshing my rss feed of
trilema
mircea_popescu: smickles will prolly be all awwww when he sees
this
tomorrow
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: bleh, I cant reply
to a reply
Ukto: at least, start debating how I am going
to do
the api
Ukto: so ppl can quickly sort
to X assets, or Y date just by
typing
Ukto: i also added pagination && searching
to
the
trade history page
Ukto: and it gave me a reason
to fixup
the page more
Ukto: also included
the number of shares on
the btton
Ukto: kakobreklaaa: got
the cancel stuff all done for
the order books
Diablo-D3: man, why
the fuck cant I find
this in
the original english