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Doffx: Well after the dust has settled it looks like I made quite a bit from the passthrough
Ukto: Did you see the dividend reinvestment stuff on BF?
mircea_popescu: lol WE ARE GETTING TOO BIG TO FAIL
Ukto: how are the murder laws in Romania nowdays? :P
Ukto: "some things"
mircea_popescu: i don't have any more money, i bought the bitfunder passthrough to cryptostocks shares investing in s.mpoe
jurov: haha, no i'm sure there will be someone interested around #otc to provide few tens of btcs or so
Ukto: we thought you would cover the shortfall
Ukto: 1 month of fundraising, then it buys bond, a month of trading
mircea_popescu: now you can make an index of 1:1 over them lol
mircea_popescu: a sio this way it can trade/invest/trade/invest sorta thing ?
Ukto: since theres a month of fundraising
jurov: we did not found a sane way how to cram it into one asset
Ukto: seemed like a waste to keep re-creating assets
mircea_popescu: jurov why the alternate month structure ?
dub: is there some other meaning?
dub: the only short bus reference I am aware of is that movie with lots of gay sex in it
smickles: where I went to school, the short bus had the intelegent peeps on it, social welfare allowed the large busses to be taken up by the 'short bus' peeps
mircea_popescu: beingtall on the short bus has the advantage you don't sniff aanyone's farts.
Ukto: tis true...
jcpham: i love the short bus
dub: EskimoBob: would that be the, relying on your customers to be retarded method?
dub: Look at how btct.co, litecoinglobal.com, bitfunder.com, cryptostocks.com and so on get their clients. Learn something. Evolve, for fuck sake!
Doffx: I would have thought you mostly liked the bag in her hand :P
mircea_popescu: Doffx i like how her tattoos seem to be drowning on her
jcpham: ok i clicked the link
thestringpuller: thanks for the discussion on that idea mircea_popescu, much appreciated. I guess we'll talk again soon.
mircea_popescu: i would think so ya
jcpham: did you just come on to me
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well what is the safe zone for right now is 5-6% no?
jcpham: i'll never eat with those wages
mircea_popescu: you can have it in an hour the
Doffx: I wouldnt call it sex, but there us nudity.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller there's no guarantee.
mircea_popescu: jcpham i'll pay you .001 btc to click it
thestringpuller: 5-6% is the interest the bot is guarenteeing?
jcpham: i'm not going to click the link, but you guys feel free to verbally describe it to me
thestringpuller: MBOR is the bond name?
jcpham: is that a sex picture
mircea_popescu: allow me to select an adequate picture
Lyspooner: toot that horn
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/14zxqr/mpex_over_1_million_btc_total_market_cap/ this i fac.
jcpham: at least mpex isn't named magic the gathering online exchange
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.24012, Best ask: 13.24013, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.24012, 24 hour volume: 77060.65520210, 24 hour low: 12.74919, 24 hour high: 13.49800, 24 hour vwap: 13.20606
EskimoBob: and look, he has no need for a hysterical sociopath cunt, to represent him :)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is it 10 billion shares total?
mircea_popescu: i love the shock people get when they discover that... wait!!!! while we knew better and ignoed gpg and didn't user irc and etc stuff was happening!
mircea_popescu: "Does anyone actually think MPEX is worth $8.4 Million USD? Seems WAY overvalued to me (like 1-2 orders of magnitude)."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's what god said.
mircea_popescu: hehe. one of the advantages of starting slow, you catch these things before they do damage
thestringpuller: Well mircea_popescu if you are willing to believe in me, I will pull it off.
kakobreklaa: 20:33.46 ( @gribble ) markedathome was last seen in #bitcoin-otc-eu 33 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 46 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <markedathome> mcorlett: i'll help test if it is needed within the next 4 hours
kakobreklaa: btw, to anyone who rememebers
EskimoBob: you guys have talked about this for days now. Let me ask this: what is this added value you offer for clients?
mircea_popescu: no thestringpuller. the main issue is that a single price is meaningless for a fragmented set of random submarkets.
EskimoBob: over here it's 6 mil tons and it goes straight to ass
thestringpuller: so mircea_popescu if I can prevent a geogrpahical shortage in one location from affecting the entire market, the main issue you see will be solved?
dub: on thunderchunk in the fatobar system
dub: EskimoBob: yeah but every american consumes 4 mil tonnes of chocolate per annum
thestringpuller: in the location in mircea_popescu scenario
thestringpuller: due to a shortage in one geographical location
EskimoBob: lol at this cocoa price bs. Over 4 mil tons of cocoa gets produced per year
thestringpuller: if the price went up for everyone
thestringpuller: i feel as though new trading strategies would arise due to this
mircea_popescu: if he had the ability to he might arbitrage
mircea_popescu: he wouldn't have to.
thestringpuller: so if there is a shortage in one location, then wouldn't he have to transport it from a farther location?
mircea_popescu: arbitrage is meaningless if you can't close the cycle.
mircea_popescu: if he can transport it.
thestringpuller: like with spot exchanges (like CME I guess), wouldn't one supply shortage result in some trader doing argritrage?
thestringpuller: what if there was an exchange at each supplier
smickles: like I said, the 37/18 was just the optimal situation. (something that all those elliot wavers seem to forget)
smickles: mircea_popescu: would it be profitable if they did the sell at 35 buy at 32?
mircea_popescu: it's more likely to findsome btc in the park lying on the ground.
mircea_popescu: lol ya right, and they got lucky to be hit at 18
thestringpuller: has that happened smickles
smickles: (that's just the optimal example)\
thestringpuller: only 2 times
smickles: mircea_popescu: the sell at .0037, buy at .0018, ruturn the shares
mircea_popescu: smickles true that.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller let's get it this other way : there's 20 geographically distinct markets. in one of them there's a shortage. that guy goes and buys moar cocoa. drives price up
smickles: mircea_popescu: someone taking my deal with s.dice could've already made a bunch of btc
jurov: thestringpuller, why should someone in the California (if coffee would be grown there) have the same price as someone in Nepal?
smickles: on that news ;D
smickles: ;;sell 1 S.MPOE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.MPOE at .2% per day based on the 1day average
thestringpuller: but what would be the physical trade floor is a computer terminal connected to the internet
smickles: is it tho?
thestringpuller: mpex exists on the internet and only on the internet no?
jurov: if they had 500 mpoe-pr's ? why not
mircea_popescu: you want 500 mpexes all over the world ?
thestringpuller: i apologize for the confusion
thestringpuller: i don't understand how price formation is centralized if it is primarily influenced by the supplier?
mircea_popescu: cause cocoa for (instanbul to budapest) is different from price in (cote d'ivoire to atlanta)
thestringpuller: wouldn't the price set it self based on the suppliers?
mircea_popescu: that's not really tyhe point. the point is that if you're decentralizing the clearing house why are you centralizing price formation
thestringpuller: thus someone in istaanbuul can sell columbian coffee to spoiled americans
thestringpuller: to decentralize the clearing house
thestringpuller: I feel as though it is completely possible
gribble: #12371 Mon Dec 17 11:18:07 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 S.DICE @ 0.2 %/day (Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average)
smickles: ;;sell 1 S.DICE @ 0.2 "%/day" Lending S.DICE at .2% per day based on the 1day average