987200+ entries in 0.643s
EskimoBob: i had only few shares of
this crap for lulz, so I do not really care
Namjies: Considering it's one of
the most
trustable business out
there,
that 1% is still good.
Namjies: But you could easily calculate and know
that if you read before buying.
Namjies: It's not, so no scam
there. SD was paying about 1% per month.
Namjies: No, I
think EskimoBob was simply under
the impression
the rest was claimed
to be
treasury stock when it's not.
Namjies: The rest of
the shares were never
treasury stock.
mircea_popescu: Sep 04 22:47:33 <usagi> I know more about finance
than you could possibly understand mircea
EskimoBob: thestringpuller: I am not a
troll at all. If you do not understand, why you got fucked, sorry
Namjies: He's still entitled
to any interest on shares not sold.
Namjies: EskimoBob,
there is nothing wrong in all of
this... SatoshiDice was already an established business. It went public with 100 million shares owned by Evoorhees since he owns his business. Buying shares of S.DICE means you buy an interest in SD off of him.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu:
talk about yourself :)
mircea_popescu: usagi
thing. clueless stupidity acting as if it knows shit.
mircea_popescu: you don't like it, stick
to making mud pies or w/e you're making.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: usagi
thing? And hat is
that?
Namjies: Plus no part of
the 100 million shares was ever
treasury stock.
mircea_popescu: the largest revenue generator in btc, is what you have
there.
Namjies: EskimoBob: it was, by evoorhees, for initial development and servers...
that's still financement.
EskimoBob: he pulled a number out of his ass, mircea_popescu helped him
to sell
this garbage and now you have, what ever you have
there :)
kakobrekla: shuuttup smickles almost got
the shares.
smickles: Anduck: if you look at
the chart,
this happend a couple of
times already and it recovered within 24 hrs
EskimoBob: Namjies: you kno what
treasury stock is and why shares have
that "status"?
Anduck: big 0.1 bets
to <1 handle winning streak incoming
Namjies: That share didn't finance
the whole of SatoshiDice. SatoshiDice was already financed.
Namjies: Otherwise, what, someone buy one share and no one else and
that person gets everything?
smickles: Anduck: someone just sold a bunch, for personal reasons it seems because
there isn't any bad news out
there
EskimoBob: smickle, I am not upset at all but who keeps
the divs on shares not sold on IPO?
Anduck: well uhmm whats happening
to SD?
Anduck: i just happened
to notice it at 00:00
Namjies: EskimoBob,
the dividends shown on MPEx is for 10 million shares.
smickles: Anduck: you fins celebrate
the 22nd?
EskimoBob: fuck,
this IPO is even bigger fuck up
than I ever imagined
EskimoBob: sure but
the ones he has not sold in IPO can not get divs or ...
Namjies: Evoorhees keeps 90% of revenue,
the 10 million he's selling is for 10% of revenue.
smickles: EskimoBob:
the other 90000000shares are not
treasury stock
Namjies: So no more shares
to split. Beside, each share represent 100 000 000th of SatoshiDice income.
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: are you
telling me,
that
they can not sell any shares from III ?
smickles: it should pop back up soon
tho
EskimoBob: do
the math.
There will me more shares outstanding
to share
the income
mircea_popescu: EskimoBob next div day its projected
to pay as much as
TOTAL so far.
EskimoBob: smickles: next div day will not be as nice as
those so far
smickles: whoever got
that 1394btc worth at .0014 should be happy
Namjies: I wanted
to have bids in...
Namjies: Why didn't I have more BTC available for
this!
Diablo-D3: if its not a large fraction of
the missing 300 some shares, why bother me over it
mircea_popescu: a broadcast
transaction pretty much never dies if i understand
this correctly
FabianB_: depends on
the miner (or pool), different pools implement it differently i
think
Namjies: a
transaction with an higher fee has priority over
the same output with a lesser fee, I believe.
FabianB_: thestringpuller: make a new
transaction with a fee
Namjies: For once
that could potentially have been applied
to MPEx
Namjies: There wasn't much in
that quote other
than money was lost and
the business was attempted
to be kept afloat
to recoup loss
through fees or something like
that.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 13.47429, Best ask: 13.56797, Bid-ask spread: 0.09368, Last
trade: 13.47425, 24 hour volume: 29638.17165934, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.54771
Namjies: or
the failure statement including
things
that you're not even in business in.
Namjies: I usually understand
that by
the immediately following statement mentionning
that X business is going down.
mircea_popescu: IF we decide
to liquidate (ie no other alternative is presented) be aware
that
the debt
to enterpoint is larger
than our current liquid assets, and
the liquidatable value of
those other 4 boards isn't very high with ASICs around
the corner. Ideally another alternative will be possible. We'll see in
the newyear.
mircea_popescu: B) Someone else will need
to pick up
the
torch and continue operation (At
the vote of shareholders).
mircea_popescu: A) BTCSYN will be shut down, and we'll figure out a sane way
to do
that (liquidate and pay out
to shareholders using
this list)
mircea_popescu: This doesn't mean
that it's doom and gloom. (though we've had plenty of
that already). What it means is
that I won't have
time
to maintain
the miners, keep
things running, or run
the sites/infrastructure.
Anduck: except
the final part,
that one i got
Anduck: mircea_popescu:
the first comment. i understood nothing
mircea_popescu: "or you can cover your debts with a loan from yourself by
this EU
third party whom mystifies stuff, which is state business again.. and any government is fraudulent."
Anduck: +
they
talk horribad english
JWU_42: but not something
that gets me excited
to lend
kakobrekla: its more useful for btc
than anything else
mircea_popescu: i
thought you said above
this data is market orders only ?
mircea_popescu: a
trade can be eitgher limit crossing limit or market crossing limit
kakobrekla: if one buys at market its obvious
that on
the other side
there is a lmit order
to be filled
mircea_popescu: how do you even distinguish market from limit orders on mtgox, do
they mark
them in some api output ?
kakobrekla: its actual
trades
that happend with market orders
JWU_42: rules isn't
the best word choice
JWU_42: Then I break
the rules
mircea_popescu: the buyers are many and small
timers,
the sellers are few and sell large chunks
JWU_42: I would
think
the opposite - most epople sell via mtgox as price is highest (generally)