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mike_c: but but, last I read everything was going great and they were picking up their hardware! i haven't followed the thread recently i guess :)
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> [16:51:46] aren;'t these the guys that stole the "investors" equity to cover for the previous time they got owned ? I believe they are
mircea_popescu: aren;'t these the guys that stole the "investors" equity to cover for the previous time they got owned ?
mircea_popescu: blond lead vocal guy couldn't quite decide if he wanted to do an elvis impersonation or not
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, that's only because you don't speak either russian or fringe chinese/indian languages
artifexd: "ain't" is black vernacular? I thought it was southern venacular. Source: I grew up in Texas.
MisterE: catchy, ain't it?
mircea_popescu: but i happen to think some bits of black vernacular are expressive. i use ain't all the time.
VanCleef: you produced gwar didn't u?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is all bs weirdo romanian stuff, it shouldn't really count.
mircea_popescu: i can't even recall wtf it was called.
ThickAsThieves: they still wear cargo jeans and band t-shirts
VanCleef: nin hurt is a pretty terrible song, wiash cash didn't cover it
mircea_popescu: in many ways the usg is much like a bitcointalk investor : can't get anything done because surrounded by thieves
MisterE: homeland sec doesn't include all law enforcement either
ThickAsThieves: why isn't Homeland Security part of the Defense budget?
pankkake: artifexd: I don't think there ever was a altcoin testnet. if it's configured in the code, you can start it yourself I guess!
mircea_popescu: i'll send you some atc if you can't work it out ah
artifexd: I don't want bitcoin testnet. I want altcoin testnet.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, i can't believe they'd have stopped the testnet
mircea_popescu: you don't say ?!
artifexd: That doesn't make it a good idea.
mircea_popescu: and i don't think orlov even uses the latter, just, a current russian expression ascii explained in english at some point
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mention him, other people keep mentioning him, like herbi and ascii. i thnk he's mostly clueless and generally vain.
mircea_popescu: see, you can't spot them either!
mircea_popescu: and you don't ADD inflation, because you're not in 2009 dollars today.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone cares about the spot
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is much more than the us, why shouldn't it spend much more ?
mircea_popescu: that's why the throwing money isn't stopping, i'd guess.
mircea_popescu: this isn't supposed to be a "milking noobs for years" thing, and it's not supposed to be either accessible to or productive for the sort of car salesman that thinks himself a financier now.
mircea_popescu: MisterE: LTC on Huobi dump destroyed a lot of n00bs who could have been milked for years instead of in one big dump but nobody thinks long-term << no, you don't understand. destroying scams IS thinking long term.
MisterE: did O change it? I didn't think so
chetty: hasn't O pretty much put it back?
MisterE: US welfare ain't that great
MisterE: I'm never here so I don't know but I thought pretty much politics and intelligent exchange of ideas is OK
cazalla: i don't think this conversation would fly in here during peak hours
cazalla: oh, how about you go and get sterilised? oh, they didn't mean themselves, just others
bounce: I think you both are wallowing in the same kind of feeling put upon that got the activists up before and had them change the gov't and such more to their liking
bounce: talking in -isms won't help you, seeing how those got us there in the first place
bounce: you take care of yourself, pay taxes, gov't takes care of those who can't help themselves with "free money". then more and more people want in on the free monies, and so it goes.
MisterE: saving used to be good now if your credit cards aren't maxed you're not a patriot
bounce: well, wasn't it the /national/ government that fscked it all up so bad?
MisterE: no and I can't find anywhere in the world better
cazalla: i'm jack of it and i suspect there are a growing number of people like me from the middle class who won't put up with it for much longer
cazalla: i don't see how else you can unite a people and kick out the leeches
MisterE: oh that should be stopped ASAP you can't have foreign counties buying up your country
cazalla: but they're hanging around for as long as they can because the pension isn't enough to sustain them
cazalla: but they won't do anything because that many people get welfare now that it's political suicide
cazalla: you can't because they destroyed our homogeneous society by bringing in boat loads of people who don't share the culture, don't care for the country but have their hand out for welfare
cazalla: MisterE: pointless being pissed at the politicians who enable them because my vote makes no difference and they don't care once they are in office anyway
cazalla: MisterE: they don't want a better life, they want to live in the bush as they did before the British came here, I am happy for them to do that, government is not and they keep throwing money at them
MisterE: Why are you hostile to the people who just want a better life? You should be pissed at your representatives in Sydney who are making policy on how to handle it and I guess believe in handouts for people who can't vote?
cazalla: if it was an even playing field, i probably wouldn't be so hostile to them like most australian's are
MisterE: anyone else so comes from abroad should not be able to get benefits even if they can't show they are there legally or a citizen
cazalla: so you've got middle class tax payer upset that immigrants, asylum seekers, illegals etc etc are flooding the country, draining the welfare system while they pay for it in increased taxes, gov sells off it's assets to pay for people that don't even belong here
cazalla: meanwhile, 85% of asylum seekers here don't have a job after 5 years
cazalla: most people here don't share my views though
MisterE: when the cops stop them for something don't they get caught?
cazalla: seriously though, i don't care anymore
cazalla: i am finding a lot of people my age no longer care, don't even bother voting even though it's compulsory
cazalla: can't even call a guy a nigger anymore without being arrested
cazalla: i don't mind yanks but we call you guys seppos when you're here
cazalla: works until it doesn't eh
cazalla: I don't anymore, not that what I did before was trading, more gambling
cazalla: MisterE: I don't think the Chinese care for it, majority of the volume is still on btc-e, I figure coblee kicked this off on his brother's exchange just so he could sell without fees or risk
mircea_popescu: "don't shoot or i'll unfollow you"
asciilifeform: somebody should print cloth crib sheets, like the maps given to british officers during the war, but for americans. contents: 'don't shoot - i know secrets!' in 30 languages.
asciilifeform: you - him, so he couldn't you.
asciilifeform: the folks who originally built these things weren't hoping to conquer anything. they were satisfied with the idea of: glass parking lots, free of untermenschen.
mircea_popescu: and this if you roughly know the direction. if you don't....
decimation: yeah, you can't carpet-nuke that kind of area
mircea_popescu: joecool that can't be right, mostly because nuclear power is economical as compared to burning oil.
decimation: indeed, nuclear bombs aren't nearly as dangerous as people like to believe
mircea_popescu: this works across the board, currently the biggest deterrent to nuclear detonation isn't a bunch of fucktarded chicks that drink tea and blather like sheep. it's simply the desire on all parties that invested billions in these things to avoid proving to the general public that... big fucking deal.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even have to be all that present, but human beings need experiences, and a balanced diet thereof.
mircea_popescu: apparently you can't get a fetish going if you get to see the actual object, in all its nude glory.
mircea_popescu: even if you don't make either your life calling.
decimation: should be fine, don't put too much other stuff on the AC circuit
decimation: The goal of formalism is to avoid this unpleasant little detour. Formalism says: let's figure out exactly who has what, now, and give them a little fancy certificate. Let's not get into who should have what. Because, like it or not, this is simply a recipe for more violence. It is very hard to come up with a rule that explains why the Palestinians should get Haifa back, and doesn't explain why the Welsh should get London back
asciilifeform: (nitpick - traditional stones aren't glass - seashell and slate.)
asciilifeform: my brother. he didn't pay 100k though
mircea_popescu: hdbuck well don't forget to publish if you figure out anything.
mircea_popescu: omg i don't suck how can you say that!1
diametric: possibly, it also reminds me of when someone wins at something, people immediately assume they cheated somehow because they themselves didn't win.
cazalla: I'm your average person, can't keep up with some of the conversation here, need to go and google words for definitions and so forth but I'm here (got started in Bitcoin nov 2012) so I would expect others who are average to start turning up as I have
mircea_popescu: my cock really doesn't taste as bad as people tell themselves.
mircea_popescu: you don't read the forum much i take it.
mircea_popescu: i can't sell enough us, as far as i'm concerned.
ninjashogun: It's the difference between "How can I help you get from a $500K nominal valuation - your last round - to $10M" and "Wait, you're not taking a salary? Why don't you just go on welfare?" -- this channel above :)
asciilifeform: i had a dream as a kid where me modem (old at&t 'paragon' fished from a skip) was a gas modem, and i forgot to turn off the gas
Mats_cd03: i can't speak for anyone else
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, it was called "don't feed the trolls" and we sold custom consulting services that consisted of "Don't feed the trolls". Hope this answers your question.
Apocalyptic: ninjashogun, I hope i don't use any products resulting of your experience
benkay: !t m s.nsa
benkay: if you can't guarantee physical security, the device is useless.
ninjashogun: I don't think it's possible to make a true tamper evident device.
ninjashogun: I personally don't like tamper evident seals at all.
benkay: don't you understand the importance of capturing markets with shoddy products asciilifeform?!
asciilifeform: benkay: it wouldn't, clearly. this is lunacy.
asciilifeform: and answered something like, 'if you mean a $300 small laptop, we don't know how to make one that isn't a piece of shit.'