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mircea_popescu: hair seems ~right i think ?
shinohai: dafuq did i just watch
mircea_popescu: and in other news, i get http://dpaste.com/3T7BNAM which is somewhat flattering, because https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2016-02/msg00225.html
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about, the new argentine govt liberalised the fx ; as a result the anemic bitcoin market (which was doing 1-10 btc/day throughout the financial controls regime) entirely vanished. i'd be surprised if monthly volume country wise reached 20 btc now.
mircea_popescu: sciilifeform> trinque: i'm not convinced of this << i'm convinced of not-this. observe paper-and-pencil never rotted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i dun even recall there being any oop in ms basic << i didn't care for the naming conventions! SAME THING!
punkman: last time I worked on someone's twisted stuff it was horribly complicated but yeah
phf: i write twisted when i need to do anything "millions" and "network" in python
punkman: I've written my own libcurl wrappers every time I gotta use it with some random language
ben_vulpes: urllib2 is a perfect example of "but i don't want to write oopython!"
phf: i agree re piece of shit, but not sure about libcurl, i remember it being a pain in the ass to "configure" to do simple things
punkman: I'm considering going back to libcurl
punkman: phf, speaking of requests in particular (about 80% of the py code I write does http reqs), I've conclude that it's a piece of shit along with everything from the author
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm not convinced of this
a111: Logged on 2016-04-26 19:07 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-26#1458202 << yeah i use it as a perl
phf: oh in that sense i prefer python, it has enough libs to make it very good at "hacking". pyquery, request, pyobjc
asciilifeform: i think pretty much everyone has a 'bedtime' lang where he can sit down and write 3 lines that no, won't show to anyone, but do xxx
phf: actually i wrote some code couple of months ago for qbasic because i was curious about the surprisingly feature rich gui stuff. wish i knew about that growing up
phf: i've hacked basic recently, "chipmunk" for mac
asciilifeform: and i'd be surprised if both did not now have lib cancer
asciilifeform: i dun even recall there being any oop in ms basic
asciilifeform: i dun see oopism in there ?
mircea_popescu: ftr, in the few and far between cases i wrote anything in c++ i also ignored the whole "oop" stuff.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-26 18:57 trinque: when I write py, I try to forget that it has an OOP impl entirely.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-26#1458202 << yeah i use it as a perl ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-26#1458207 << i found out, already, why. will be fixed on next reload. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: trinque: this is why i do webshits in clojure.
trinque: when I write py, I try to forget that it has an OOP impl entirely. ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i use it as pretty much a less-carcinogenic perl.
trinque: fuck python; it is an example of design for "those people" i.e. the idiot consumer or whoever.
asciilifeform: for another, the fact that i can even ask this !!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i really will have to make it paged
punkman: ben_vulpes: I don't think there's something not to hate
asciilifeform: i used it because i found a pgp parser thing for it.
ben_vulpes: and ftr i motherfucking /hate/ python.
asciilifeform: eh i can get this in bmore
mircea_popescu: the last time i had a bill in my name i was 15 and thought it was cool.
mircea_popescu: mats you havta appreciate, i don't personally live anywhere ; interface the state away.
asciilifeform: i can picture !
mircea_popescu: mats i keep trying to convince myself to try china with little result.
mats: i grew up with a number of folks that work there
mats: there is perennial talk about traditional values, but i suspect its mostly to placate the peasants
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that also yeah, but i kept it lowball. i guess 1.75+ counts for A+++ in there.
mats: i can tell you don't know many azns
mats: i personally dunno anyone that cares about it. money is the new religion.
mircea_popescu: fortunately ~nobody cares about pancakeface gurlz. otherwise we'd be in deep shit, from what i hear the demand is pretty crazy in china.
mircea_popescu: i guess. but very jewish you know, cunt planet 100%
mircea_popescu: mats what do you mean no culture ? confucianism is very good cowsy culture, i'm surprised it didn't become more popular in the us sooner
mats: i've never been able to wrap my head around these things, looks purely -ev but what do i know about economy anyways
asciilifeform: aside from career linguists, i know ~no one doing this.
mats: topically, there are a lot more 'confucius institutes' since i last checked
mats: i dunno why americans aren't proud of beating the savages into submission and taking all their shit
mircea_popescu: sounds self-parodically reactionary, but what do i know.
mircea_popescu: punkman last i saw ~50% of pop made ~500 euros, but w/e, thereabouts.
mircea_popescu: punkman i've yet to have a bank bitch when ordered to deliver
mats: i dno, weirdly enough most of the noise is from my network that is like 5% white and weren't born in us
punkman: they aren't printing a lot of 500eur notes yet, I wonder if people are paying a premium to acquire them
phf: i thought they used to have it, but discontinued once bezzle started settling in
mircea_popescu: i think it's ridiculous that there's no $1500 bill to go with the $1000 euro / $5000 ron etc.
phf: i think it's controversial that $100 no longer looks like this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R00JYEDJOe0/T_0IOf1ijyI/AAAAAAAADWE/j48TxYMCpqw/s1600/IMG_2349.JPG everything past that is just digging the grave deeper
mircea_popescu: ok but more's the point, how controversial is it ? i never heard about it.
asciilifeform: that ~exactly same thing happens in finance, is, i think, known to all at this point
mircea_popescu: i mean seriously, imagine it... "hurr durr i heard a new word today, bitocin. let me google b-i-t-o-c-i-n click hmmm... apparently it's Bit-Coin. o look it's a dashed histributed layer of tips! NEAT! i'ma tell all my friends, which just happen to be plushies cut like japanese girls!"
phf: i remember that thread
mircea_popescu: if i want to know who the president is, by that token i'm retarded. if i actually need to google "funny pics" to have a laugh, idem.
mircea_popescu: the simple fact is that the sphere has shattered into shattered shards. i go into detail somewhere, but too lazy to dig it up, so let's rehash briefly : who the fuck would need google to find his way to something of interest today, and what's it say about them if they found it by google ?
phf: mircea_popescu: those were anecdotes from early facebook days along the lines of "everyone i knew was doing google in ~2005~". the feature necessary to make it useful for milking were locked down way back
asciilifeform: similar, i think.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking, cumu-i turcu' si pistolu'.
mircea_popescu: i never installed one o.O
asciilifeform: 'Type inference is known to be a bit slow when inferring nested data structures. I think they’re hoping to speed it up before the release of Swift 3, but for now you can make the compilation faster by adding a type annotation...'
asciilifeform: usians are often quite surprised when i tell them that it didn't. and disbelieve.
mircea_popescu: precisely and exactly like "whatcha waitin' for ho, this cock to suck itself ?" "hey, i'm the Queen of De Nile!" "Mno, you're just some ho in the ho-bar. Get busy."
asciilifeform: i've met 'civilized' folk who, for one reason or another, got 'policed' and were surprised
asciilifeform: didn't even realize until i saw the battery, the only thing the blade could not powder easily, lying about
asciilifeform: i moved over one of those solar lantern things
mircea_popescu: it's just that i was mowing.
mircea_popescu: there's no "had to". when i accidentally ran my lawn mower over one of my thyme bushes, it wasn't that I HAD TO cut the thyme with large rapidly rotating blades.
asciilifeform: i still wonder why murdock had to be removed
asciilifeform: but i can see what mircea_popescu is thinking of.
asciilifeform: the police don't yet bother respectable folk where i live
mircea_popescu: so i did.
mircea_popescu: phf if this is hacking btw... the girl i fucked this morning is a space shuttle.
asciilifeform: re suits, lulzy, i'm about to have the metal anvil in my 'model f' chromed, now i anticipate q 'where in motorcycle does this weird thing with holes go'
mircea_popescu: i guess this reduces to a version of the marx sense, except exactly the one he didn't like.
phf: i actually briefly worked for a guy who bought a bugati from facebook ads, and while i was there, was doing primarily "skin your facebook" internet explorer plugin, that would replace all ads with own versions. if be$$al$$ the goal...
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever clicked an ad either. nowadays we have the terminology to properly formalize this : people who are so low on the wot scale of things they're used to being forever alone can not by that very fact possibly have the sort of social clout that'd allow them to control enough resources that'd make anything we care about relevant to them.
mircea_popescu: there i sat and wondered, much like you do above, who's in the target for this.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you recall that facebook gimmick where some derp supposedly trolled his roommate by controlling his ad flux ?
asciilifeform: and i dun think i mentioned this before,
asciilifeform: then again i was pushing a proggy for which total theoretical maximum install base could have been 500 people.
asciilifeform: it's a hundy i'll never see again...
asciilifeform: long ago, '11-ish, i bought google ads even
mircea_popescu: or , for that matter, these days i guess huh.
mircea_popescu: i pity the buttholes of the coming babes.
mircea_popescu: "what's the bargain, i lube up and you fuck me raw ?" "ayup" "where's my pen!"
phf: i emailed spammers in the 90s :D
mircea_popescu: i dunno if anymore, but you should have seen spammer inbox a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know for a fact people do. and yes it is exactly spam, and people clikc that, too.
asciilifeform: i'm still not convinced that anyone clicks on ads, other than by accident