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PsychoticBoy: registering a company here in
The Netherlands will cost me so NO
Diablo-D3: then register fdbf as a company,
then claim and pay out
to your shareholders and
then dissolve
the company
PsychoticBoy: I own 2 shares of gigamining
the other 115 shares are owned by FDBF so its a loss for investors if I dont do what giga said but its a matter of principle
Diablo-D3: if his lawyer has advised him
to comply with US laws,
then
the government is
the one
that made
the rules, not him
PsychoticBoy: so in otherwords
this is a shitty situation for me, I am pushed into a cornerr
Diablo-D3: thats neither a good or a bad
thing. its a statement of fact.
PsychoticBoy: He is playing by
the rules (like he said) But if I am playing by
the rules (Dutch/EU law) I get fucked hmmmn
that can not be possible
Diablo-D3: and yes,
that actually IS such a
thing
Diablo-D3: if he is incorporated in a state
that requires a list of all shareholders
to be published
PsychoticBoy: but as EU citizen I am not allowed
to send him my details if I wanted
that
PsychoticBoy: I
talked with an lawyer here in Holland and he
told me what gigavps or his lawyer is doing is in opposition
to
markedathome: thestringpuller:
they have
the right
to request liquidation
through a motion if
that is allowed in
the contract
Diablo-D3: he may have actually violated
the law somewhere
PsychoticBoy: I have
the feeling he just want his ass covered by a lawyer and not pay out shareholders
Diablo-D3: just another reason
to excommunicate nefario, imo
Diablo-D3: his lawyer knows more about
this shit
than any of us do
Diablo-D3: I wonder if his lawyer
told him
to do
that
Diablo-D3: what, hes not buying
the shares back?
PsychoticBoy: He wont get another btc from me as he already
took more
than 70 BTC (117 shares)
PsychoticBoy: its only not a reasonable
thing
to do, ask for ppl personal data
Diablo-D3: why are we
tagging giga as a scammer?
PsychoticBoy: I dont mind payoing 1000euro for a lawyer
to get him hanged
PsychoticBoy: he is no EU company If he does own a company
that is registred
PsychoticBoy: An affidavit attesting
to
the beneficial assignment of
the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing
the apostille of
the competent jurisdiction. Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from
the law offices.
PsychoticBoy: For real persons: a photocopy or scanned PDF of government issued photo identification, or, for corporations
the document number and issuing jurisdiction of
the incorporating charter and proof of current good standing.
PsychoticBoy: allthough I only own 117 Giga shares, does not mean I have
to let ppl walk over me
thestringpuller: PsychoticBoy: I
think I missed something. What did gigia exactly do?
PsychoticBoy: Now when
things are getting ugly, he goes by
the law etc F
PsychoticBoy: He did not need my ID or such when I
took my coins
PsychoticBoy: I am sick of people who make
their own rules, Bitcoin is a semi annonymous coin
traded in a free market
PsychoticBoy: yes it is one of
the best lawyers in
The Netherlands (and expensive) but he is like a pitbull
PsychoticBoy: I
think I will get giga into court, I contacted O Hammerstein, my lawyer, and he wants action
gigavps: i've read
the
TOS for some of
the sites, and
treating
the exchange as a "experiment/learning" will not keep
them out of court when
the government comes calling
gigavps: all of
the new exchange will have
the same problems
gigavps: and
they were supposed
to be reporting gains/loses
gigavps: one of
the huge reasons GLBSE closed was because
they had no idea who
their customers were
JWU42: OK -
that clarifies
gigavps: well, selling gigamining since
the close of glbse will most likely void any claim
JWU42: hmm PsychoticBoy was around a bit ago
talking about GIGAMINING
JWU42: wow - good
timing giga
JWU42: PsychoticBoy:
thought you couldn't sell
them
jurov: with all
these whales
jurov: lol
that change several
times yet
pigeons: ;;rate stealth222 2
trust his code
pigeons: rate stealth222 2
trust his code
Bugpowder: I have yet
to send in my AML data but will soon. Would be willing
to pick some shares up at a reasonable price.
jurov: indeed it's dangerous
to give anyone your ID number and illegal for
third parties
to process it
markedathome: jurov: sorry, googled "european union distribution outside of personal documents" and 4th down. used
the quick view link - didn't realise it was user specific
PsychoticBoy: but I am going
to my christmas dinner, see you guys later
PsychoticBoy: cause
the chance for identity
theft is big+ it is a illigal action
PsychoticBoy: I said it was a person,
then
they said dont send data EVER!
PsychoticBoy: I explained
the whole story
to
the lawyer/judge I
talked with and
they
told me
this: Dont send your ID
to a non EU country registred company
jurov: sorry we're unable
to find
teh document
PsychoticBoy: hmmmn
they probably did, but I was
too upset/angry/mad or how you will call it, I have
to call
them back and let
them send it
too me by mail. for proof
jurov: psychoticboy, did
they said exact name of
the law?
PsychoticBoy: but I am prepared
to pay
this out of my own pocket
PsychoticBoy: To get him sued, ed start a lawsuit against him
this will cost 700euro initial (we wont get it back if we lose
the case)
PsychoticBoy: So in short, you are all (if EU citizen) in
the right
to not send him (gigavps or his so called lawyer) anything. You can evemn sue him because of
this action
PsychoticBoy: should be
the same, dont send info
to gox either unless
they are EU company
PsychoticBoy: true
this info comes fr4om
the Dutch Law institute, I called
them
PsychoticBoy: Asking for your ID etc is a CRIMINAL action according
to
the EU law
PsychoticBoy: so DONT send your personal info, It can be used for Identity
theft
PsychoticBoy: Here is a list of countries which by law are not allowed
to send
their ID
to
third parties (Countries outside
the EU)
PsychoticBoy: BEWARE: according
to European law, We (European citizens) may not
transfer our ID (our a copy of it)
to a
third party (Outside
the EU, like gigavps lawyer)!!
PsychoticBoy: are
there European People
that send Personal information
to lets say gigavps?
smickles: it's shapped up
to be
the largest drop in history
smickles: heh, yeah, not likely
to 'win
the war'
today
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