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Diablo-D3: so, if someone dox the entire BFL staff and their close family, well, I wont be able to stop that
Diablo-D3: I guess thats the end of bitcointalk
Diablo-D3: because I put everyone in timeout
mircea_popescu: just different things
mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't particularly think > or <
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Bugpowder: did you see this?
Bugpowder: hmm... ok. so I can only claim my own shares then
gigavps: i'd need to register with all the three letter acros
gigavps: Bugpowder if i do that, i'm out of business
Diablo-D3: gigavps: its technically for partners, but unlisted privately held shares are the same for those states
Bugpowder: gigavps Is there any way for me to buy shares of gigamining off of people who don't want to send in their AML stuff to you?
Diablo-D3: gigavps: no, in some states you have to tell the state who owns part of the company
gigavps: Diablo-D3 they don't have to give info, they have ppl's money
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: it would have been the intention of not telling the government who his shareholders are that would make it illegal, btw
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: yes, it would be illegal to have sold them to begin with
Diablo-D3: [05:51:03] <EskimoBob> "Diablo-D3 | he cant payout to shareholders -- that would be illegal" - LOL, in this case he broke the law when he SOLD the shares for start and the circus he is running now... pff... is ugly and only to benefit himself
Diablo-D3: [09:11:46] <Morblias> lol Diablo-D3. I love Josh's post. 'all rational people base their opinions on evidence' yet they give us 0 evidence ASICs exist. So therefore we can't have any opinions on BFL according to Josh?
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pigeons: Diablo-D3: there is another option besides bfl being a long con and bfl shipping, and that's bfl doesn't ship cause they fail and suck and design, production, logistics, management, etc
FabianB: but if i want to find _any_ goat cheese, it's more likely i find one in a city (the village has goat farmers or it doesn't)
FabianB: if i need to find that _one_ goat, of course the information in a village to find it is cheaper
FabianB: yeah, i think of cities more of statistical stability by mass
jurov: these greek cities were such...when you were expunged ("ostracised" word was born there) = social death. not sure if it's so much desirable
jurov: it's not just goat stealers who find unbearable these "social mores" and impossibility to choose people you want to interact with
jurov: imho he did not meant that villages are better. just that cities are just considered unstable due to that information problem
FabianB: mircea_popescu: so you think cities < village coz anonymity is hindrence for information?
PsychoticBoy: whats up with the BFL drama
mircea_popescu: smickles nope i have not. the values themselves aren't strictly fixed.
thestringpuller: it's dead in here tonight
Graet: um, ppl mine with gpus and f[gas atm, not reall an aption to "put money inb"
thestringpuller: we should get people to pull their money out of giga and put them into your pool ;)
Graet: i need to convert bitcoin to fiat to pay for servers, but i pay miners on my pool in bitcoin yes
Graet: for someone that "only deals in bitcoins" it is not an acceptable solution
Graet: yeah. by the time i fuck around and pay for stuff to send and the other fuckery..... i consider my gigamining bonds another rip off.
pigeons: also note the claim needs to be for over 100 BTC
pigeons: i'm not sure, i think the defendent has to agree to the proceedings before they are heard
thestringpuller: cause ultimately if giga doesn't comply and PB has a good case giga will get labeled a scammer via WoT? or what are the other repurcussions of "non-compliance" to the judge's ruling
pigeons: i was thinking about only PB filing a complaint, but yes if there were a large number he would be more likely to need to address it
thestringpuller: wouldn't he have to if enough people filed against him?
pigeons: its a good idea, but i would guess giga wouldn't agree, he would seem to have more to lose
thestringpuller: ;;later tell PsychoticBoy perhaps you should file a case with the mpex court
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thestringpuller: ;;later tell
thestringpuller: sounds like a case for the mpex courts!
thestringpuller: were you here for the giga discussion?
pigeons: haha no, but i've been there ;)
pigeons: on the internet nobody knows you're a pigeon
thestringpuller: you too dude
PsychoticBoy: good night all I am going to bed, have a very nice Christmas
PsychoticBoy: It is still not worth any possible identity theft etc
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PsychoticBoy: so a total investment of more than 70 btc
thestringpuller: I thought you said 70
PsychoticBoy: Ok I will think things over, but I am most certain that all my gigamining shares must be counted as a loss
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PsychoticBoy: GLBSE was not legal in the first place so
PsychoticBoy: <Diablo-D3> PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place << I probably did
PsychoticBoy: You can buy mine, Ill give the email address and btcaddress and even the btc privatekey if you buy my shares
Diablo-D3: so dont think you magically get out of this by not claiming
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: you may have violated EU law by investing in giga in the first place
PsychoticBoy: I wont in the future
PsychoticBoy: It will cost him some time and money and maybe even a company change of activities so I doubt giga will do that
Diablo-D3: [06:53:20] <Diablo-D3> then request to giga that he does.
Diablo-D3: then request to giga that he does.
PsychoticBoy: gigavps does not have a registred company that fits EU regulations
PsychoticBoy: Yeah but if I follow the law, then I am not able to send my data if I wish
Diablo-D3: if hes following the law, then thats it
Diablo-D3: all shareholders must be known to the state
Diablo-D3: I already explained that one to you
PsychoticBoy: But the main thing is, sending personal data to claim, wtf
PsychoticBoy: I have to investigate that first
Diablo-D3: there are ways under EU law to hide the personal data of corporate officers.
Diablo-D3: you may not have to.
PsychoticBoy: sure, I am not gonna glue my name to FDBF
Diablo-D3: nope, its the fdbf corporate identity.
PsychoticBoy: I made that mistake once not twice
PsychoticBoy: I will not send my personal data to a stranger
PsychoticBoy: no not really I offerd him to just pay me 0.1 btc per share and be done with it
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: you want to make this as hard as possible for giga
pigeons: I WANNA LOSE MONEY, ITS THE PRINCIPAL
Diablo-D3: you send him the corporate details
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: thats why you form the company
Diablo-D3: I bet more than 7 BTC
Diablo-D3: okay, thats about 7 BTC
PsychoticBoy: he can keep the change the filty animal
PsychoticBoy: And guess what I will not send that data ever
Diablo-D3: if its more than the 117 shares are worth, I wouldnt do it either
Diablo-D3: find out how much it'll cost to register the company
PsychoticBoy: and thats it
PsychoticBoy: so if the shares will not be claimed by me by sending personal data then its poof gone
PsychoticBoy: I will not get tagged for not sending personal details, theymos already told me that
PsychoticBoy: not that I am proud of
PsychoticBoy: I allready have a thread in Scam accusations
Diablo-D3: and you may end up getting scammertagged on the forums as well
pigeons: so you lose their goodwill
PsychoticBoy: I lose 2 shares they will lose 115
pigeons: investors who trusted you to look after their interests
Diablo-D3: oh no, they'll just go after you.