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bonafide: they set a target
bonafide: the newly elected people in Japan got in, made their announcements
bonafide: I'm shuttin down my EUR/JPY positions and thinking of going long EUR/USD as a fecal cliff play
bonafide: I'm still tapping the jpy atm.. but getting out tmrw afternoon and taking gains
mircea_popescu: lol he's the bughole of stocks
bonafide: hope you got enough for more than intraday holding
bonafide: everyone that shorted
Bugpowder: Vanguard exchange from MM to fund
Bugpowder: I wanted to buy
Bugpowder: "Stocks Pare Losses as House to Reconvene Sunday"
smickles: too bad, that would be fun
smickles: damn, is there really no data from back then?
smickles: kakobrekla: you should test your bot on usd/gbp years 29-30
smickles: heh, it's probably interesting to see how any bot handles 07-08
Bugpowder: will be watching with interest though
Bugpowder: well let's defer this for a bit. Need to get back to wrok
kakobrekla: i guess at this point is best enky speaks as well.
kakobrekla: i could run a test if you are really that interested
Bugpowder: would be nice to see how it handles 07-08
kakobrekla: if it will get through 4 years i dont expect it to blow in a month
Bugpowder: but you need time too
kakobrekla: at least 100 trades, rather 500
kakobrekla: well i gues it would depends on amount of trading
kakobrekla: if i have a bot that will burn in 4 years
kakobrekla: but it can tell you something.
kakobrekla: backtest doestn mean that much
Bugpowder: right, but if you have a human pulling the trigger in the real implementation the backtest is not valide
kakobrekla: yes the result will be different
Bugpowder: how do you backtest if a human pulls the trigger?
kakobrekla: and then had good periods
kakobrekla: had periods when it made little to nothing
kakobrekla: anyway its tested on 4 years backtest or so
kakobrekla: but shit need to be recoded then for mt4 unfortanetly :)
kakobrekla: a year to get
kakobrekla: a result that would take a year before takes an hour now
kakobrekla: about a year of cpu time went in it
kakobrekla: anyway, this is only the first version
kakobrekla: but we prefer to manage it
Bugpowder: "we got cold feet" who is pulling the trigger, the software or a person?
smickles: and today's high on bitcoincharts shows 13.47 at that!
Bugpowder: kakobrekla Well.... 7 trades total? If your performance keeps up I may be interested.
smickles: that C130T seems downright ballsy to me
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.39889, Best ask: 13.39970, Bid-ask spread: 0.00081, Last trade: 13.39888, 24 hour volume: 20296.08468303, 24 hour low: 13.26355, 24 hour high: 13.47000, 24 hour vwap: 13.40203
kakobrekla: fees are only on profits, for now profits are paid out monthly, after a few months we will go with a closed fund probably, paying out monthly profits is not a wise idea in the first place but with much fluctuation now i dont have much choice
smickles: betting is an interesting way of outting the baysian mind. if you are 100% sure of something, then you should have absolutely no issue betting 100% of your money, in fact, you should have no issue doing that and borrowing more to bet as well. Point being, people tend to say (and self deludedly believe) they are 100% sure of something, yet would hesitate to risk all they own on a bet to that end
Bugpowder: what about losing months, is there a fee? Are previous month's losses subtracted from subsequent month's gains prior to calculating the performance fee?
kakobrekla: Bugpowder, 1:500 but that high its not needed, theres max of 0.4 lots that it can open with 4 pairs now so it wont overtrade, fee is 20% of the profits because its a highly maintained system (closing trades are mostly manualy)
smickles: heh, i'm glad noone actually took the bet. pizzaman1337 I should hope you'd recuse yourself from betting, as it was you who had the answer ;)
pizzaman1337: smickles: I'll take your .5 btc :)
Bugpowder: kakobrekla what is the fee structure for kv1? what is the leverage used?
Bugpowder: Can people buy in to KV1?
kakobrekla: if you dont scalp its better this way
kakobrekla: you can get institutional acc with 500btc+ with a fraction of that spread but some other fees come into play there
kakobrekla: no other fees, no swap, no tax no nothing
Bugpowder: whats the spread?
Bugpowder: Do you have to exchange to fiat and back to trade the pairs??
Bugpowder: what forex place has that option?
kakobrekla: audnzd cadjpy gbpjpy eurusd at the moment
kakobrekla: i write bots with enky, kv1 is the first prototype, it uses kalman filtered velocity as a main indicator
smickles: "Hold on to your butts."
jurov: lol, we shouldn't trade futures between ourselves.. we'll get to hate each other
mircea_popescu: dumbass romanians only getting online to download xmas greetings.
smickles: it tastes so much better today
smickles: damn, I wish I measured the temp which i brewed this coffee at :/
mircea_popescu: the quest for the better reset.
mircea_popescu: lol. any sufficently advanced technology will be treated as magic.
mircea_popescu: "2. A better reset is this un-documented procedure, used by beta tester ( I was on the FVS338). Is hold the reset button for 20 sec, pull the power while still holding the reset button for 20 sec, then power up still holding the reset for 20 sec. Then release the reset button."
smickles: it's a pain to look that up retrospectively
smickles: what I'm curious about was what you read from bitcoincharts as the average at maturity
smickles: yeah, I know that
mircea_popescu: but i thought what you meant was, volumes, as in "x contracts"
smickles: "this" being the fact that you published unrelated information of the futures :P
mircea_popescu: dioes the fact that i publish btc settlement values for futures mean that i will also publish btc settlement values for options ? yes, it does.
mircea_popescu: in that case, define "this"
smickles: Or have I just not know where you put it this whole time
smickles: hmm, mircea_popescu does this mean you'll publish the options maturity number too ?
mircea_popescu: bah the list's not right
kakobrekla: im just wrappin up math of my kv1 fund, up 20.6% after the fees in first month
thestringpuller: depressing irssi is hard to use in a mac
jurov: sac, the block purity protector
gigavps: ooo, just made post 2100 to smack SAC upside the head
jurov: actually it is has the same risks as sending cash by mail... except that receiver won't be aware someone copied the key en route
jurov: um i don't get it... accepting bank wire/cc anonymously looks like much bigger hurdle than transferring private keys securely
gigavps: aka, mailing something to a verified address
gigavps: you need to follow meatspace rulz
gigavps: but what if you want to accept bank wire, cc, etc
jurov: gigavps, then no mailing necessary... ppl just send securely the txs with oversized fees, get back virgins to source address
gigavps: or like eligius, mine a portion of coins directly to a wallet
jurov: so sending block fees to an addy requires its private key?
jcpham: nah i say mine blocks directly to line feed printer
gigavps: all that good stuff
jcpham: and the coins were lost
jcpham: or the printer jammed
jcpham: especially if it relied on like a print command that failed
gigavps: so the private keys can be mailed to ppl
gigavps: you can also mine coins directly to paper wallets
gigavps: something like that
jurov: as in, ppl send txs with large fees exclusively to you, then when you mine a block, lo and behold, virgins
jcpham: of course nothing like that currently exists
gigavps: but she doesn't do anything with the business