asciilifeform: also if you have a consistent empty 4GB of memory, you can apply my cache patch (not yet an official vpatch, but it is a 1liner, ups bdb's cache to max) ☟︎

asciilifeform: (it dun need fast random access)

asciilifeform: davout: if you have a box with a ssd ~and~ traditional disks, put the debug log on the traditional

asciilifeform: also there'll be the debug log

asciilifeform: not the block writing

asciilifeform: davout: the tx index is the issue

asciilifeform: and get ~same result

asciilifeform: if it weren't for the screaming insanity of bdb, you could theoretically 'elevator algorithm' the disk accesses

asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the problem vanishes on ssd

asciilifeform: when ~saving a block~

asciilifeform: davout: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000255.html and http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000256.html and past 2 wks of logs.

asciilifeform: davout: see logs. it's when the thing grinds to a halt while verifying block, while waiting for 1,000,001 random disk writes to complete

asciilifeform: davout: ideally this would take some other form than everybody hanging off my particular node

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2017/feminine-exceptionalism << hanbot ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'resistance through culture' (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the monkey circus, https://archive.is/ekC3l >> 'responsible disobedience' didjaknow.

asciilifeform: who might you be, b41e209ccc264812 ?

asciilifeform: what book are you looking for, b41e209ccc264812 ?

asciilifeform: !!up b41e209ccc264812

asciilifeform: brain-melting.

asciilifeform: kenya?!!

asciilifeform: ( tx index rather )

asciilifeform: ssd is the only complete pill against this, thus far

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627304 << a box like that will have hour-long blockindexdb blackholes ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: it's exactly like the 'nologin' util ~except~ that it doesn't hang up.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627307 << jurov look how ssh does port forwarding. it doesn't USE the normal shell part for anything. the whole POINT of fuckoff.c is to clog, and work as a 'stopper' for shell access ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627306 << it worx great for zoolag-to-dulap, and ben_vulpes , trinque are also on ssh wires, no bug reports so far ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627305 << netstat ☝︎

asciilifeform: lul

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who then

asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet noticed it , directly, when browsing shitazon just few hrs ago.

asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo this is a '0day scoop', afaik discussed nowhere.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: maybe try this piece in the heathen pits ( 'thedonald' etc )

asciilifeform: *ipso

asciilifeform: and what's that do

asciilifeform: with which to later reject a valid one having same hash.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except it's a fine hashing structure! the bug is not a bug : a block with one or more duped tx is ispo facto invalid (double spend.) and bitcoin has NO business keeping around 'hashes of' or any other part of an INVALID block.

asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/2FaQr/?raw=true

asciilifeform: i got a nooseitem comin'

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo awake ?

asciilifeform: !#s tv raft

asciilifeform: srsly wat.

asciilifeform: 'Once the victim receives this invalid block, they will cache it on disk, attempt to process it, and reject it as invalid. Re-requesting the block will not be even attempted since Bitcoin believes that it already has the block, since it has one with the same hash.'

asciilifeform: how was this 'fix', any kind of fix.

asciilifeform reviewing vintage 'fixes', e.g., https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=102395 >> mircea_popescu tell me, how the fuck does caching ~invalid~ blox make any sense at all ?

asciilifeform: i dun think this will make his ssh client work tho.

asciilifeform: it isn't needed

asciilifeform: Framedragger: yeah i forgot to cut it

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: ok nm

asciilifeform: hey ben_vulpes do you have the binary versions of first few blocks handy ?

asciilifeform: hey pete_dushenski didja actually get the tunnels to work ?

asciilifeform: ( rather, than, say, weeping over his freshly formatted hdd )

asciilifeform: luser patches, goes back to lusering.

asciilifeform: crashes, nao wat.

asciilifeform: well in the sense that it's a non-event, 0day-wise.

asciilifeform: doesn't look exploitable, sadly

asciilifeform: davout: post lulzlog in the end

asciilifeform: srsly? bug?

asciilifeform: empire of lulz

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno about dc, but my cherryblossom had bloomed, and already had time to turn liquishit-brown last week

asciilifeform: sorta why i have the 'nqb' thing going.

asciilifeform: sorta the point of trb.

asciilifeform: only if the old one is still operating

asciilifeform: accepts a block that ye olde trb wouldn'tve

asciilifeform: (forkable)

asciilifeform: well potentially ze bomb

asciilifeform: graf zepellin was a train on mircea_popescu's home planet ?!

asciilifeform: about.

asciilifeform: iirc this was standard, and on hindenburg also, each held about 20 mircea_popescus in comfortable little rooms

asciilifeform: anybody not a pirate ?

asciilifeform: it isn't a new idea by any means.

asciilifeform: (and probably before)

asciilifeform: u.s. navy carries, iirc, scuttling charges, at least since pueblo incident

asciilifeform: just -- to the grief of many kriegsmarine folk -- slow

asciilifeform: well, it's a 'self destruct'

asciilifeform: sea valve.

asciilifeform: no, the other kingstons

asciilifeform: 100% of ships have kingstons.

asciilifeform: killing pirates is quite kosher per 'law of the sea' last i knew

asciilifeform: send the detonation code ?

asciilifeform: 'can haz reactor + balls ?'

asciilifeform: more or less what limonov wrote about while sitting in prison

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik there has not yet been birthed a civilization that has both reactors AND curbstomp-all-whiners. it is a theoretical possibility, like bricks of antimatter.

asciilifeform: ( more of, iirc, a hindu phenomenon than a christian one, but existed )

asciilifeform: aha, and 'diy' self-mummificatory diet!111

asciilifeform: !#seen mthreat

asciilifeform: no less.

asciilifeform: let the 'furnitures' in, out.

asciilifeform: eventually reached gromyko, who grumbled (su was signatory to 'anti-slavery convention') but managed to hush it up

asciilifeform: 'you would not give passports to a furniture?'

asciilifeform: she : 'whaddayamean, passports, they are my slaves'

asciilifeform: then it turns out , little problem : not all of the gurlz in said household, have passports

asciilifeform: reminds me of a folk story from late '50s. shah of iran and his wife went to visit su. she, of course, takes entire household!111 literally, furniture and all, in classic eastern tradition; ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( as forecast by, e.g., sf writer neal stephenson, imbecilistan will devolve into pictographics )

asciilifeform: it'll come.

asciilifeform: 'Trifork is a leading full service supplier of high-quality custom-built applications and end-to-end solutions. ... We aim to empower our customers...' << lol!!

asciilifeform: and yes it'll be exactly like heron's steam turbine.

asciilifeform: noshit.jpg. did anybody think that mircea_popescu did it to scratch an itching toe ?

asciilifeform: and the number of weaknesses carried over from bitcoin oughta be zero.