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midnightmagic: Canada is not fine. The moron voting public voted in Harper based on promises of infrastructure investment which haven't materialized, and now we have a rapidly deteriorating legislature which consists of a bunch of idealogical idiots essentially ignoring the entire canadian public and dismantling some of our most cherished institutions and rights.
Namworld: Possible, my english might not be that good.
mircea_popescu: back then they were poor.
Bugpowder: China doing pretty well compared to 70s as well
mircea_popescu: i meant that it's outrageous for china
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean the us is particularly turmoily
Bugpowder: Compared to the race riots of the 60s and 70s, I think we are doing pretty damn well
Namworld: Everything is always fine in Canada... nothing much happening. Just people saying "Eh?" all the time and mooses.
Dr-X: some bets on satoshi show up 3 times in recent
mircea_popescu: Dr-X thing is i was of the same persuasion before discovering btc.
mircea_popescu: they're getting riots almost on par with the us by now.
Bugpowder: you are way to pessimistic
mircea_popescu: plenty of dead walking, and it's impossible not to do business with them
Bugpowder: although much has be given to fed at par
Bugpowder: the banks have a shitload of bad loans that are not being marked to market
mircea_popescu: basically this is exactly btc economy cca july : everyone's balance sheets were all time flush with cash
Dr-X: no they're not bankrupt, they have a shitload of own equity
mircea_popescu: no, they won't fail, they just poison the economy with worthless receipts
mircea_popescu: and that pretty much says the whole story.
Bugpowder: but... they probably won't fail
Dr-X: they do too, bank stocks are the best right now
Bugpowder: except those with financial exposure
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder not if you properly account for the currency risk
Namworld: I'd be surprised if there was less than a million left...
Bugpowder: Corp balanace sheets are basically all time healthiest
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if there's a thousand left.
Namworld: mircea, most of them?
Dr-X: no growth assumed when the price per btc doubles it will be worth 250k btc and 6,500,000 dollarz?
Dr-X: how do value a company, it is worth 500k btc and 6,500,000 dollar (easier to calculate)
Namworld: Hmm, than that makes it more USD safe, but you'd earn less if BTC prices rise.
Dr-X: yeah, but my fear is that the price of the share will go down, when the price per btc goes up
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.68386, Best ask: 13.81000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12614, Last trade: 13.81000, 24 hour volume: 41310.15984901, 24 hour low: 13.40400, 24 hour high: 13.81000, 24 hour vwap: 13.59046
Namworld: or something like that.
Namworld: People seem to bet just as much BTC when it's 1$ per BTC or if it's 20$ per BTC
mircea_popescu: Dr-X they're purely btc businesses. the dollar don't enter into it.
mircea_popescu: s,mpoe went up like 3000% while the btc went up like 300% in dollars.
mircea_popescu: Dr-X hasn't happened to far.
Dr-X: and what happens if the bitcoin price in dollar rises? price of the stock goes down?
Namworld: Hmm, still quite some time.
Bugpowder: Man, my matlab bet optimizer doesn't handle the time decay
mircea_popescu: at the rate it;s going atm, it will do that in ~10 years
Bugpowder: Over the course of its existence
Namworld: At that price for BBET, 10 million would cost 2775 BTC. BBET would need to get 277 500 BTC in bets to get that back in fees for dividends...
Bugpowder: I think he will not roll it all in
Bugpowder: not the bidder
Namworld: At that price...
Namworld: Where will be the cheap blocks D=
Namworld: If he puts it in SD, might not be such a bad deal. SD will probably remain a major Bitcoin betting site for a long time.
mircea_popescu: Confirmed total: 263 BTC
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, losing all your money is not the same as losing a third.
Dr-X: you can burn your fingers with bitcoin, if you buying them with hard earned money
mircea_popescu: the rationale being that 100k put into btc now will make you "just as rich" as 300k put into btc now.
mircea_popescu: a third of it
Bugpowder: I really set the hook in my friend last night. Now he's thinking of rolling his 401k into self-directed IRA and putting it in bitcoins :)
Dr-X: if you look for ltc dices, the biggest one accepts 50 LTC lol.
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales << that's what i do.
Bugpowder: they have no other place to bet
Bugpowder: its the only place with a bankroll big enough for whales
Bugpowder: probably the variance goes down about 2-3x
Bugpowder: when they rolled like a 60000
Bugpowder: I think you can still get some wild swings
Bugpowder: glad they raised max bet to compensate
mircea_popescu: i think the swings are a thing of the past.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder they changed the lucky number thing for better dispersion
Dr-X: you just bet on both and trade on sport betting sites :P
Dr-X: but idk how that works out with weigthed bets
Dr-X: only two outcomes, not like football
Dr-X: yeah tennis is nice to bet on
kakobrekla: perhaps tennis will get some traction too
kakobrekla: ya lots of bets on the NFL
Dr-X: from what I see sport bets work better than those sily bets ;)
kakobrekla: will get the interest of mp
Dr-X: 14th to 27th january australian open, but idk if you want too many sport bets
Bugpowder: satoshi max bet is up to 500BTC
Dr-X: australian open is soon, so maybe some tennis?
Dr-X: yeah, just made more. I think I gave you 0.2 for the lulz :P
kakobrekla: been buged about this for a couple of times now
Dr-X: thx, yeah was searching for that ;)
kakobrekla: i will add order by bets sum in teh order by field in the browse soonish
Dr-X: good to know
mircea_popescu: click on bitbet logo on the left
Dr-X: to see where's the money at
mircea_popescu: one day some of us were chatting and this girl said about her uncle or w/e that they're relatively related.
kakobrekla: lemme know if they come in time.
Dr-X: cool, checking out the bets. I think I'm calling my relatives from the andromeda galaxy to visit me soon.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla do the work man. paste the addy here
Dr-X: Can I bet there without making an account?
kakobrekla: Your bet will appear in the confirmed bets list shortly after 1st confirmation.
kakobrekla: Send Bitcoins to:
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135762189688.jpg << .1 btc to whoever guesses the girl's occupation.
mircea_popescu: i kinda liked it myself, but... yeah. nothing to be done.
kakobrekla: i had to do it in the end.
kakobrekla: the logo doesnt go over the banner anymore, no.
mircea_popescu: you changed the header tho ?
Dr-X: in germany suicide is covered after 3 years, before that only if you're crazy
kakobrekla: aww, shes thinking bout us http://shrani.si/f/19/rN/2d8Tkb6s/think.png
Dr-X: he could go to a country where suicide is covered by life insurance
mircea_popescu: jcpham now why'd you do that ? houses of cards are dafty.
mircea_popescu: you have no business keeping too much money on "exchanges"
jcpham: i live at the very top of a house of cards