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mircea_popescu: especially because the topic is so complex real numbers can not be found./
jurov: i just wonder - am i the only one who tries to find out some real numbers when talking about programming langs?
jurov: it not about me wanting to evangelize python
mircea_popescu: most php code runs faster than most py code simply because most programmers are idiots.
mircea_popescu: that graph shows php to be slightly faster, with a huge berth.
jurov: ah those damn stereotypes
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 14.17214, Best ask: 14.21998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04784, Last trade: 14.17214, 24 hour volume: 33873.76920876, 24 hour low: 13.87150, 24 hour high: 14.26133, 24 hour vwap: 14.08706
jurov: at least you didn't go with microsoft. cause ITS TEH STANDARD
mircea_popescu: so then go with python, i see no problem there.
jurov: but from my own experience, python makes it harder to open a gaping hole
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this isn't an indictment of python in any way
mircea_popescu: cause you can own php once it's there, makes no diff if used much or not.
mircea_popescu: thing is, if pphp extension is visible that is all we need.
mircea_popescu: maybe that's true
jurov: surely someone did the crawl but can't find anything like it
jurov: php is just so much more visible cause everyone leaves the .php extension visible
mircea_popescu: asking people whether they can name python ? of fucking course they can.
mircea_popescu: "popularity reviews", what's that ?
mircea_popescu: crawl the web, count by domain whether it runs py or php
jurov: i don't get the idea, sry. in all programming langs popularity reviews py is not so far behind
mircea_popescu: no sauce, but you get the idea.
jurov: 10000 times more? sauce?
mircea_popescu: which is the average between 0 and 1 multiplied with 10k
mircea_popescu: consequently, the figures to compare are 15 with 5000
mircea_popescu: jurov php is used about 10`000 more than python for web apps.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder good point there
jurov: btw, PHP had 15 "code execution" type vulns. python 0.
Bugpowder: "All else equal, having 1% of a company is better than having 0.5%. But the 100th employee at Google did much better than the average venture-backed CEO did in the last decade.  "
mircea_popescu: that's the google python thing ?
mircea_popescu: that idiot with the "small majority" what's his name
mircea_popescu: you should read cablepair's stuff sometime. two pages, nothing there.
mircea_popescu: yeah. me either. would be nice if the peeps would make more useful posts announcing stuff
JWU_42: so not sure if people are guessing based on the RoR news or what
JWU_42: yeah - that is what I heard
mircea_popescu: it was more like "let's write some stuff so all these idiots quit programming in myspace"
mircea_popescu: the django devs didn't proceed with "let us write code that shall be used to handle btc payments"
mircea_popescu: topace especially because they wrote it for an entirely different purpose.
mircea_popescu: to go with the java exploit last year
topace: i saw another bitcoin site pop up using drupal and just laughed, just waiting to get hacked, i know cavirtex uses django too, not too sure about its security vulns.. but using any sort of framework tha tother people wrote, and trusting it blindly, is a _bad_ idea
mircea_popescu: maybe they did read it , audited it all etc.
mircea_popescu: topace security through not running ANY code that's unread.
topace: i have no problems with the functionality :)
topace: security through 1994 web dev skillz
JWU_42: security through obscurity ?
mircea_popescu: didn't want to carpetbomb everyone.
mircea_popescu: even send the girl to warn those bitcoinica redux idiot
topace: "i dont know how to make a site, so ill quick prototype a site with ror and then launch it live"
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck the warnings were all over the place
Bugpowder: are these the same thing?
mircea_popescu: We sadly need to announce that our wallet has been compromised thus DO NOT send any further funds to any of the coin wallets, BTC, DVC, LTC, etc. We will setup a new wallet and reset all the addresses. This will most likely take the whole weekend.
Namworld: and kako gets the other half... or whatever the ratio is.
Namworld: so you'd basically pay the price to get 100% on those shares + half of sales proceed...
mircea_popescu: figured, well fuck it, these fud idiots will prolly burn it into the ground, i buy it all out and we go from there.
mircea_popescu: ya well i wanted to try this thing out.
Bugpowder: before it sells through
Bugpowder: thinking of raising it to 250
mircea_popescu: so i guess we're three pods in a piggy.
mircea_popescu: i had some bids in too, but i never got anything.
Namworld: then poof, tons of bids over it
Namworld: I had 500k just over the 1 million at 27000
Bugpowder: and it sold though down to 35
Bugpowder: I think someone placed an even higher one right before the open
mircea_popescu: i was just going by the min/max
mircea_popescu: well would have had to Bugpowder seeing how there's no sales under 35 on record ?
Bugpowder: high bid was at least 55000 at the open
Namworld: Well 35x that was nicely priced in my opinion. 3500 BTC valuation.
mircea_popescu: i thought they overbought yest at 150
mircea_popescu: so, the part where the 1k block was undervalued is a fact : it sold for 35x that.
mircea_popescu: 35000 i think
mircea_popescu: seems that way.
mircea_popescu: what, just because this is a public venue and graham does his shit behind closed doors i have to be stuck with all the unwashed public ?!
mircea_popescu: go tell me about airbnb instead
mircea_popescu: 20k btc is way under that. 75% discount or some shit.
mircea_popescu: dude lay off. there's no start-up in this world valued under 1mn
Namworld: To get that on 1% fee, it would require 2 000 000 in bets. I'd have though people would wait to get more reports/info on advertising revenue and other variables.
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Bugpowder: how much was that?
Bugpowder: or maybe the right morning
Bugpowder: I picked the wrong morning to reduce S.DICE exposure to 1000 coins :-P
mircea_popescu: part of them
Bugpowder: will the 480000 go?
Bugpowder: yeah its better that way actaully
mircea_popescu: to allow for the exact sort of thing
mircea_popescu: so yeah. this quite deliberately actually
Bugpowder: and placed a buy order for up to 100000
mircea_popescu: not same second as i erroneously indicated at the time
Bugpowder: I wonder how much of this is that there is more capital available than viable securities to invest in...
Bugpowder: while the blocks were still popping off
Bugpowder: Or after the last second
Namworld: I thought people would buy more progressively as BitBet shows it can bring a cashflow.
Namworld: thought it wouldn't raise to that point so fast? I didn't either =/
Namworld: Wanted to buy yourself a personal stack of your own stock?
Anduck: why people try to make those ID's so COOL ???
mircea_popescu: well honestly fuck this, i didn't even get to buy shares
mircea_popescu: anyway this is all too much excitement for one day.
mircea_popescu: ass in the other sense.
Namworld: You can't call it assbot with its "ass"api if it's not being an ass, requiring very complex commands plus it has to be in Morse code.
Namworld: Is it the most impossibly complex to use API, plus you have to interact with it in Morse code?
mircea_popescu: which has occured smoothly and now we're on teh new interface.