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asciilifeform: iirc the typical 'eaten by tiger' candidate is not the owner, but a sometime visitor.
asciilifeform: and iirc there were more leopards, lynxes, other 'desktop' cats, vs 'mainframe cat'
asciilifeform: not many american-style 'picket fence' houses there.
asciilifeform: indoor pets mostly.
asciilifeform: there are folx who climb the fence in the zoo, in every country
asciilifeform: 'when, WHEN can i be eaten!!'
asciilifeform: or what was it.
asciilifeform: maybe just very advanced toxoplasmosis
asciilifeform: popular, apparently, pet.
asciilifeform: in various apartments.
asciilifeform: recently it was proclaimed that these folx succeeded in forcing an animal 'census' in moscow. which turned up some 300 large cats. incl. tigers
asciilifeform: but there is a set of 'fried chicken niggers' (tm)(r)(trilema) in ru, who want to change this, so that they can http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627253 on it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: of course this is a circus, neither a concrete raccoon nor all of them put together, have any official 'rights' in ru.
asciilifeform: '
asciilifeform: but 'population of animal
asciilifeform: not just animal
asciilifeform: 'by filming the raccoon with a naked woman, the defendant inflicted harm on the population of raccoons. Now, every who sees this given film or photograph, will associate raccoons directly with erotica.'
asciilifeform: didjaknow
asciilifeform: 'Снимая его рядом с обнажённой женщиной, ответчик нанёс вред популяции енотов. Теперь каждый, кто посмотрел данный ролик или фотографию, будет ассоциировать енотов непосредственно с эротикой. ' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: the last book burner who ~read~ the books, likely, died some time in 1500s
asciilifeform: evola sold on amazon? tel aviv shits dodecahedral bricks; nazi kidnapping squad STILL AROUND, regenesisblocked -- snoar
asciilifeform: built by no less a man than heidrich.
asciilifeform: incidentally how come 'nobody' cares that interpol was a nazi org ?
asciilifeform: ~nobody does.
asciilifeform: i mean, who the hell cares if ru court indicts somebody. spain, germany, etc. won't extradite to ru.
asciilifeform: dunno that it's about the 'better'. just that one has proboscis, the other does not
asciilifeform: the mosquitoes here in mosquitolandia are large, but apparently not quite the size of mircea_popescu's ( though at c3 i saw a great many mosquitoes, but 0 bit ! some sort of incompatibility..? )
asciilifeform takes off hat
asciilifeform: ..with proboscis?
asciilifeform: lolwut, with teeth ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-16#1628501 << same reason why people don't bite mosquitoes back. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 'ceo'.
asciilifeform: what'shername
asciilifeform: overnment’s Red Notice and detaining Belan after his return, Dokuchaev and Sushchin subsequently used him to gain unauthorized access to Yahoo’s network.... ' << where is the indictment of the idiot woman ?
asciilifeform: 'Belan had been publicly indicted in September 2012 and June 2013 and was named one of FBI’s Cyber Most Wanted criminals in November 2013. An Interpol Red Notice seeking his immediate detention has been lodged (including with Russia) since July 26, 2013. Belan was arrested in a European country on a request from the U.S. in June 2013, but he was able to escape to Russia before he could be extradited. Instead of acting on the U.S. g
asciilifeform: preet 'жил жив и будет жить' !111
asciilifeform: 'A grand jury in the Northern District of California has indicted four defendants, including two officers of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), for computer hacking, economic espionage and other criminal offenses in connection with a conspiracy, beginning in January 2014, to access Yahoo’s network and the contents of webmail accounts.'
asciilifeform: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-charges-russian-fsb-officers-and-their-criminal-conspirators-hacking-yahoo-and-millions << from horse's mouth, some plain text.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, even though preet is out, preet-style lulzindictments of folx nowhere near usgistan, are still a thing : https://cryptome.org/2017/03/dokuchaev-001.pdf ( turdalicious fax scan, no plain text available yet afaik )
asciilifeform: 'initial coin offering' lol
asciilifeform: so entirely conceivable to have airbus with mechanical linkages still worth something minus hydraulic pump
asciilifeform: rome was built with hand-cranked (foot-operated, really) cranes
asciilifeform: davout: you can lift a house with hand-cranked mechanical force, just takes time
asciilifeform: 0 mechanical link to the surfaces.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nope. joystick in, e.g., f16, or airbus, is ~exactly same as toy joystick
asciilifeform: ~= brick
asciilifeform: at least thing ~had~ mechanical linkage. picture a 'by wire' machine.
asciilifeform: !!up DaoSancho
asciilifeform: rather than an old candy wrapper.
asciilifeform: davout: the fundamental fallacy is the notion that bitcoin, absent the 'ladder' of transactions from a valid coinbase to your particular unspentolade, is still in whatever sense 'bitcoin'
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: davout: this is pretty fundamental material, imho, it is 'what separates us from the monkeys' (tm)
asciilifeform: silently replace the protocol with promise.
asciilifeform: sorta the whole thrust of gavinism, neh
asciilifeform: once you learn how few nodes are actually nodes -- your bowels, will quiver.
asciilifeform: visaisation.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: which i thought was pretty clear
asciilifeform: this was the subject of mircea_popescu's keccak article
asciilifeform: and the concept of 'the' blockchain -- fades.
asciilifeform: if you have enough of these, bitcoin per se becomes a very questionable proposition
asciilifeform: davout: understand, anyone who runs a node that cannot or will not produce 'historical' record ~from genesis up to currentheight~ is an attacker. doing his own small bit to nail bitcoin .
asciilifeform: where was it in the meantime ?
asciilifeform: davout: from where does this 'full chain' come from ? martians deliver it to your house ?
asciilifeform: it's precisely how all successful usgizations went -- slow, frogboiling replacement of a protocolic guarantee with a promisetronic one that is Just As Good (until it isn't, at which point you're long fucked)
asciilifeform: and ethertard-style proscriptions, etc.
asciilifeform: proponents of 'pruning' want to replace 'the weight of 400k blocks' with a promisetronic 'checkpoint list'. which, i imagine the game plan is, to eventually include deviations from the usual proof of work, per gavin's unabashed declaration where 'WE say what the blocks were'
asciilifeform: there is no way to compress infinite string into finite space.
asciilifeform: and 'i want to not have printolade exist' and 'i want not to have to buy new hdd every year' is such a pair.
asciilifeform: davout: i suppose that works
asciilifeform: means wanting two individually-feasible but contradictory items
asciilifeform: i dunno of an engl. equivalent
asciilifeform: trinque, no, 'to eat the fish AND to sit down on the cock'
asciilifeform: davout : mircea_popescu has it. your hypothetical 'pruned' utxo set is one bitflip away from ???.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the thought process is that every clever kid wants to 'и рыбку съесть, и на хуй сесть' (tm)
asciilifeform: that mooches off the network, while there still are actual nodes.
asciilifeform: davout: if you aren't storing the historical data, you are not a peer. you are a pseudonode.
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: davout: what does 'verify' mean if you can't trace the coins from birth to current day ?
asciilifeform: 'where did this money come from, how much exists in total' 'dunno, in the Great Pruning of 2050 the scrolls of the ancients were lost'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd say that the idea is impossible in the general case.
asciilifeform: there is nor cannot be such a thing where a fortranesque '1 := 2' produces a consistent state.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even in your demurraging scheme , you would not thereby be able to safely recycle tx id.
asciilifeform: the solution whereby tx id is unique for all eternity, is not stupid. it is the Right Thing.
asciilifeform: nobody in his right mind would use it , having any kind of choice.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: demurraging coin fails the berlin wall test.
asciilifeform: if you cannot show a coinbase origin for EVERY coin that ever existed, you have printolade.
asciilifeform: davout, mircea_popescu : a 'pruned' bitcoin ~= usd.
asciilifeform: srsly ?
asciilifeform: pruning for fucks sake.
asciilifeform: 'The list of all used transactions isn't readily available, and once pruning shows up, it might not even exist at all. So, it only makes sense to compare the new coinbase to the list of transaction hashes that are unspent at the time ... ' << holy fuck the 1) idiocy 2) nobody challenged it, afaik
asciilifeform: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67738.0 << vintage lulzfest re 'bip30'
asciilifeform: (nuke the keychain idiocy)
asciilifeform: you can hack it into existence vtron-style
asciilifeform: natively gpg doesn't even ~carry~ the notion of 'for this set, Message, Signature, Pubkey, say if well-formed'
asciilifeform: davout: carefully read this routine and follow the calls all the way down, or this thread will make ~0 sense
asciilifeform: davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-16#1627937 ☝︎
asciilifeform: davout: per current trb rules (which , see earlier, is different from prb's ! even) A gotta be spent before it can reappear.
asciilifeform: my nodes, for instance, reorged in different places than mircea_popescu's
asciilifeform: davout: correct. and recall, reorg is a local, rather than global, phenomenon