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kakobrekla: the more the world goes to shit, the better for bitcoin
nyRednek: iz, as far as it goes, though, one of the top four players fall, the whole world suffers...
nyRednek: sorry, 2.6 trillion
mircea_popescu: sure, there's exception. too much molasses around them to have a chance.
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is exactly why i wouldn't buy the whole us for five bitcoins right now : pretty much made up entirely of this sort of stupid.
mircea_popescu: but i am kinda amused at the newb krugerite coming here and giving me advice about mpex and then getting offended when i don't happen to share his ignorance of economy.
iz: mircea_popescu: yeah, cuz the germans use metric and the us doesn't :b
mircea_popescu: sadly there's no actual way to measure.
mircea_popescu: i'd be willing to take bets that by 2015 the us economy will actually be smaller than germany's economy.
nyRednek: guys, let me know when mircea_popescu stops talking out of its ass so i can unignore
iz: mircea_popescu: great, maybe finally we won't be too big to fail
mircea_popescu: soon to be the tenth.
iz: whoops, i meant this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
nyRednek: iz, you're right...well, the SECOND largest world economy
nyRednek: iz, by 2.6 quadrillion, yep, the EU has surpassed the US
mircea_popescu: that won't make my harem the world's largest economy
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, i too can write 10000000000000000 dollah on pieces of paper and trade it back and forth with the girls
mircea_popescu: per capita income in the 100-1000 range.
iz: nyRednek: look at the numbers for 2011
mircea_popescu: if you make a huge company "producing" "art" you will fail too
iz: also, if you consider the EU as it's own entity, it's got greater GDP than USA, right?
mircea_popescu: course it's true.
mircea_popescu: no. they produced a lot of useless junk.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, that's not true
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, they produced a lot of film and cameras...
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, let's put it this way, kodak failed because...?
iz: so far they have released 2 different "patches" that "fix" the same vuln, but not really
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: comsumes women thus he needs mothers
mircea_popescu: nyRednek that's nonsense. producers need noone
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, it's backwards to think otherwise
mircea_popescu: and isn't dhs the dept of welfare i mean human services ?
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, actually, producers need consumers to buy products
mircea_popescu: dub they just wish to opine.
dub: or is it a case of sun fucked up one too many times and are written off
dub: does dhs know that java is patched?
nyRednek: the US has the world's largest GDP, and nations such as PRC depend on consumption by US
mircea_popescu: the delusions to the contrary are actually part of the "sad".
mircea_popescu: it's neither the world's largest economy
nyRednek: i mean the ashes of what used to be the US's GDP
nyRednek: here's the sad thing to watch...the US is the world's largest economy...if it falls, how well do you think the EU or the PRC will do in the ashes?
mircea_popescu: really sad to watch (from a safe distance, blesfully) what's happening to that country.
nyRednek: its mandate is much more than dismantle tsa
nyRednek: the fbi is another of their subordinate agencies
mircea_popescu: but it's mandate legally is exactly that : to dismantle the tsa and go away.
nyRednek: tsa is just one of their subordinate agencies
mircea_popescu: right, it works in practice as a sort of soviet commisariat of the people's soviets bla bla
nyRednek: too many three letter names
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, OSA is a large and wide-reaching organization...this is very much their business
mircea_popescu: their job is pretty much getting tsa dismantled already and then going away in the sunset.
mircea_popescu: nyRednek the point is the homeland security thing has no business discussing this, or pretty much any other matter.
nyRednek: the security issues regarding java have been many, so i tend to agree with OHS on this one
nyRednek: smickles, i'm thinking it's more the liberty thing...the state is depriving you of liberty by snooping on you(privacy is a safeguard of free speech)
nyRednek: smickles, also, right to privacy preventing illegal search/seizure, and self-incrimination
jcpham: do i get to share than revenue stream also?
mircea_popescu: are they coming up with those booklets on spouse selection already ?
smickles: nyRednek: so my view of it from that perspective is that you only have privacy in so much as the state isn't allowed to do things why render your ownership of property meaningless
mircea_popescu: why thanks very much to the dept of who the fuck asked them
smickles: mircea_popescu: the department of homland security suggests that you uninstall and not use java
smickles: it specifically says property tho
nyRednek: smickles, the 14th amendment was referenced, so maybe not
smickles: nyRednek: that's privacy extending from property rights tho, isn't it?
smickles: mod6: thanks :)
mircea_popescu: heh you mean that wasn't just bait ?
mod6: (on the LLC)
smickles: there's a federal tax id tho
smickles: also, there's no business license yet, the company had to be formed before it could see one of those
smickles: jcpham: It will foever be known as jcpham day in the company by-laws
jcpham: you don't have to thank me though
mircea_popescu: but there's still a version of precedent used, just... differently.
nyRednek: smickles, otherwise, we'd have no interpreted right to privacy
nyRednek: smickles, but, in reality, the english system follows the construct of legal precedent
smickles: mircea_popescu: that's romania, right?
nyRednek: unless you live under napoleonic code, which throws legal precedent out the window
smickles: that the first interpretation should necessarily affect any following
smickles: i don't like that idea
nyRednek: case law being precedent set by court rulings as to the proper interpretation of law
mircea_popescu: let people add to the 64kb through private contract if they want to.
mircea_popescu: smickles a hehe that kind. well grats nonetheless
mircea_popescu: if ignorance of the law is no defence then the law fits in 64kb
nyRednek: smickles, i've done it a few times, you have my sympathies
mircea_popescu: nyRednek tough.
nyRednek: hell, the 1783 treaty of paris didn't fit in 50 pages
mircea_popescu: nyRednek tough.
smickles: mircea_popescu: then law will grow at a rate = to compression tech
mircea_popescu: so that highschoolers can be required to know the whole law by heard
jcpham: all lwas ought to fit in 640k of RAM
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, maybe not fifty pages, but less than a full library of volumes
mircea_popescu: that's how i'd have it. you want to make a new law ? gotta wipe old one first, make space.
mircea_popescu: nyRednek ideally, the law should fit in fifty pages.
jcpham: payment threats
smickles: iirc, you made good on the threat too :P
nyRednek: redundant sections of law in general need to be excised, at all levels
smickles: jcpham: you threatent to pay me once, i've got it in writing
smickles: nyRednek: you suffer from the is/ought distinction
jcpham: i've never made a death threat that i know of
nyRednek: redundant sections of the penal code should be excised
smickles: jcpham: well, as I understand it, you can threaten to kill all you want if its a joke, but proving it's a joke can be tricky in some situations
mircea_popescu: think of the children!
jcpham: but what if i have down's syndrome and i'm not actually a threat
nyRednek: smickles, that was a stupid law that apportioned activity that was already covered by the penal code