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smickles: heh, an excellent reason why you should pay the vat
smickles: if you ain't co.ukian, i'm sure they could put you in touch with your country's similar organization
rng29a: how long does it take before a bet appears on bitbet ?
smickles: and there is probably an organization already trying to acheive the same goal
smickles: heh, i'm sure it take longer than that, but lowering taxes ought to be popular enough
smickles: EskimoBob: rather than circumventing local law, why don't you get the law changed?
dub: EskimoBob logic 101: 1) call eveyone names and generally make a cunt out of yourself 2) ask them to break teh law for you
smickles: it needs a permanent capital reserver of no less than 500000 in addition to all this other stuff
smickles: the administrator of it has to have a net worth of >=1.5 million usd
smickles: all funds have to be withdrawable in us legal tender if requested
dub: the internet might be about to have a bad day
smickles: and an additional 75000 to be held has proof they can pay their expenses for the first year
mircea_popescu: jborkl something like that
jborkl: Wait, I don't see the point of what he is doing. If you need to exchange there is GOX and if someone needs a loan they just go scam off the lending forum right?
smickles: and if he just meets the minimus, it severely limits what he can do in his operations
mircea_popescu: there's just no wai that's the whole story.
smickles: well, it's a little easer than arizona
smickles: Any number of persons, resident freeholders of the State, not less than 15, may associate to establish an association on the terms and conditions and subject to the liabilities hereinafter prescribed. The aggregate amount of the capital stock of any such association shall not be less than twenty thousand dollars ($20,000). Such association shall mean a corporation organized under the laws of the State for the purpose of making loans upon agricultu
mircea_popescu: bitcoin wants to be sent.
mircea_popescu: and theres some reference to having to do it in sweden somewhere
mircea_popescu: cool, cause his link is to norway's dba authority
mircea_popescu: i don't think he knows what he's doing.
dub: I don't think he's in the US
smickles: lol, so he raised the 15million or so usd to start a credit union?
mircea_popescu: tom green is like gengis khan. somehow he's managed to have like 200 million kids.
mircea_popescu: and save the day ?
mircea_popescu: what, apprehend the evil doers and restore peace and justice
jcpham: he was going to "help out"
jcpham: i rememeber all his spew on the foum after pirate ditched
jcpham: no way i'm giving that guy money
mircea_popescu: how long did it take in the end, 10 days ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was from j a ok
dub: mircea_popescu: wizkid was trolling
midnightmagic: EskimoBob: Did you rage and forget the rage?
dub: boss: I've got the shits, bye
dub: I'd be out the door quick smart
jcpham: the tweet
dub: EskimoBob: stop talking to yourself crazy person, everyone else tuned you out a long time ago
mircea_popescu: history is prolly a better bet than maff.
mircea_popescu: if you're going to make better people by educating them
midnightmagic: dub: So.. I guess.. that is some religion-level context elimination
thestringpuller: EskimoBob: hater to the end
mircea_popescu: yeah but i suspect the chinese are about a degree of magnitude more competent with infiltration
midnightmagic: americans seem to be more willing to just inflate their currency rather than let the chinese dominate foreign debt as much as they were.
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jborkl: about to take out $20
DeadWeasel: don't they own the majority of America's debt too?
mircea_popescu: anyway. so is zimbabwe becoming the first extrateritorial province of china ?
smickles: i don't hold that against them tho
mircea_popescu: smickles actually ginger chicks are the best!
mircea_popescu: ever since you bleedin' hearts took out the beatings nothing gets done anymore.
smickles: mircea_popescu: the only thing i have against gingers is that there is more humor revolving around gingers than mutt-american
mircea_popescu: heh. too late :D
midnightmagic: I disagree with the beating statement!
mircea_popescu: in fact, they're about as stupid as anyone else.
midnightmagic: I see a problem with the notion that white people are blameless and that civilising people requires brutal murderous oppression.
dub: unfortunately I think the reality is that our species needs quite a bit of die-back and the natural place for this to occur is the third world
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i wonder how they pronounce salem in khosa
mircea_popescu: dub i thought that was more like congo
midnightmagic: is the goblin cleanse involving people getting the shit kicked out of them?
dub: thats the seat of the 'raping virgiins cures your aids' wisdom
smickles: that they arn't seriously talike about goblins
smickles: i want to belive
smickles: i suspect the (language used in)zimbabwe to english transation which results in goblin, starts with ginger
mircea_popescu: till they're cleansed of goblins in the head ?
mircea_popescu: you seriously see a problem with smacking the "residents" of the hut agglomeration across the skull
midnightmagic: or at least that topic.
midnightmagic: i'm gonna have to back slowly away from this conversation now..
mircea_popescu: "IRISVALE HALT, Zimbabwe, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- Residents of a Zimbabwe village said they've "cleansed" a medical clinic of goblins but nurses who fled the clinic are still too afraid to come back to work."
mircea_popescu: the civilisation of the human race is a work of opression. our problem is that we've stopped doing it.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Calling them names isn't helpful given the brutal oppression involved.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic right. stealing farmer's farms because they're white wasn't brutal.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic yeah. problem is sometimes these people are experts a la taaki.
midnightmagic: Don't super-rich people usually rely on other people to tell them what's going on?
mircea_popescu: buncha niggers got uppity, kicked out the white "opressors"
midnightmagic: I love that guy. He looks like the Architect from the Matrix.
mircea_popescu: the two rarely meet on equal footing.
mircea_popescu: people who have money are usually old. people who grok technology are usually young.
midnightmagic: I would offer that people who would believe gmaxwell's partial multisig signatures means he owned millions of dollars maybe aren't the sort of people you want to be getting into bed in business with anyway.
midnightmagic: Cryptographic proof would require gmaxwell produce sigs which show he was the owner of *all* the inputs to the transaction.
mircea_popescu: all im saying is i wouldn't participate inter alia because i have not any way of knowing this isn't the case.
mircea_popescu: now, again, im not saying this is what gmaxwell is doing
mircea_popescu: well yes, but this is a little more ellaborate than just "it's based on math"
midnightmagic: Either you or I could go prove to a naive party that we own all the bticoins in the world right now.
mircea_popescu: "a tiny fraction", ie, one.
mircea_popescu: right, but that may be the standard he's held to.
midnightmagic: he couldn't prove he owned them because he could prove he was able to make *all* of the signatures in the multisig. only a fraction of them.
mircea_popescu: my point is entirely that some naive party may actually be thus fooled.
mircea_popescu: as tenuous proof as this would be
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: By the methods of identity collapse as they stand, yes, it comingles wallets and makes A B C D ... X all appear to be G
mircea_popescu: privately, however, if some idiot doesn;'t know about all this, we have what may be construed as a very fat wallet G
mircea_popescu: publicly, we have the result that indeed the method is discredited.
mircea_popescu: so now, at this point, we have two results.
dub: midnightmagic: lol but the end result is the same no?
midnightmagic: dub: One of them is a forensic analysis of transactions to determine likely owners, and the other is an attempt to use transactions to foil the methods of determining owners.
mircea_popescu: so as to carefully construct something that by that however flawerd, nonsensical etc method WOULD APPEAR to be a single wallet, call it G
dub: sorry, whats the difference between "identity colapse" and "money laundering"?
mircea_popescu: gmaxwell proposes to deliberately add together a3, b9, c4, f12 etc
mircea_popescu: so, accepting that however flawed, nonsensical or poiintless, some sort of method makes A' out of perceived interractions in the blockchain
midnightmagic: (i just wanted to register my objection early)