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DeadWeasel: you don't pay
taxes when you buy whatever it is
to play farmville, right?
jurov: your computed catched
that bitcoin malware
DeadWeasel: can anybody point me
to a guide on how
to pay
taxes on my BTCs? Do I need
to?
mircea_popescu: jeez negative q4 gdp.
they're fucked over
there aren't
they.
gesell: man
that message feature for
the chain is gonna be a disaster some day
gesell: then ill
take
the
torrent, cut it up into
tweet size segments, and embed it in
the blockchain
DeadWeasel: How about someone writes a guide on how
to handle
their
taxes when
they have BTC?
DeadWeasel: I'll OCR
that shit and sell it for 5BTC, of course I'll only sell one before it's a
torrent, and we're both screwed.
gesell: scary as sht from
the security perspective. but
then again, maybe
they
their money by cherry picking
trades via
the backend and bots
gesell: they
take no cover for
trades
jurov: i'll write a book "MPEx:
The Missing Manual" and sell it for 10BTC. dead
trees only.
gesell: bitcoin-24 is very close
to mtgox price
gesell: smickles: mircea_popescu might even help you by giving you a dump of
the historical
trades ;)
gesell: already with
that you provide a nice community
gesell: smickles: most of it could be public. for instance mircea's insight on pirate insider
trading. but you could have comments
to
that private
to subscribers
gesell: smickles:
throw into it your monitoring of
this channel and mpex. get share holder info automated where possible, have an article every month... a couple other pretty graphs. and your done
gesell: does anyone know if exchanges operate
their own bots. ive noticed bots responding
to bids with <500ms delay
to my bids on one exchange
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 21.25025, Best ask: 21.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12975, Last
trade: 21.25000, 24 hour volume: 80777.74688070, 24 hour low: 19.42552, 24 hour high: 21.43000, 24 hour vwap: 20.34921
smickles: *shareholders and potential investors,
that is
smickles: I
think i can get dooglus
to present information
tailored
to shareholders, rather
than just
the curious
jurov: including
the aftermath,
they
tend
to come
to me separately for a cookie and soothing word
smickles: 1btc per month, news and research on all
the 'bitcoin assets'
gesell: it states
the obvious and draws sime lines
gesell: i really find
that site stupid
jurov: many of
them have closed paid newsletter
smickles: gesell:
technical analysis applied
to bitcoin
smickles: DeadWeasel: i
think you're wrong, a few people have already said
that
they'd pay 1 btc per month
gesell: whats
technical anal? and ill
try
to avoid all
the puns
that come
to mind
smickles: well, 10 subscribers per writer at 1btc per subscription means 1 article per week per writer. writers paid 2.1 btc per article, and a decent rake for
the operator
mircea_popescu: there's plenty more on ruby. glbse escaped
through being already dead.
mircea_popescu: anyway, vircurex/cryptostocks got owned, bitfinex escaped
through global disinterest.
DeadWeasel: and
those are
the KNOWN vulnerabilities
gesell: yeah
this is in yaml JSON processing, and we know btc looooves
them some JSON
mircea_popescu: don't
tell me ruby is blown wide open
twice in
three weeks
Bugpowder: yeah you want
to make money on
the back end
too
mircea_popescu: honestly, i
think
the only way
that idea will work is owner-operated
pigeons: i pastebinned
the letter i got from
the sec, i verified it was from
the sec, i know lots of people who
talked with
the sec and
they wanted
to know, "how did you get your glbse account?" "who promotes glbse?" etc
smickles: it doesn't have
to be long, just newsworthy or quality information
mircea_popescu: everyone wants
to be an entrepreneur, nobody wants
to do any work anymore
smickles: jurov: you can be a subscriber, i'm
the boss here
jurov: bugpowder, i can
throw in another 0.3
smickles: you'd get raises proportional
to
the # of subscribers :D
smickles: Bugpowder: would you write articles about
the btc finance world for a starting wage of .3 btc per article?
gribble: There are currently 530.07335 bitcoins offered at or under 21.46 USD, worth 11327.2941393 USD in
total.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 20.46 USD, worth 0.0 USD in
total.
mircea_popescu: smickles
there were rumours of some actual glbse investigation, i was never able
to obtain anything whatsoever
Bugpowder: S.DICE back over 20,000 for
the month
gesell: yeah and extrapolate back
to where bitcoin depends on a PRNG
mircea_popescu: the randomness for s.dice is provided by
the blockchain itself.
mircea_popescu: "Pastebin dump of a letter from SEC sent
to several people who ran "funds" on GLBSE. Forum statements about people calling
the attorney on
the letter and providing statements. Not clear if it was just elaborate
trolling..."
smickles: well, i have a hunch I could produce 1 article per day, if only I had
the writers
gesell: i dont know
the internals yet but i assume
the calculations on winning nubmers depend on some randomness
smickles: yeah,
thing about dooglas, anyone could do
that. so if you put up a pay wall, someone else will run
the script publically
gesell: to me
they all mix
though
gesell: the analysis sdice is nice but i'd like
to see someone reverse engineer
the blockchain
to
try
to determine
the PRNG sdice is depending on,
then explore potential weaknesses or just confirm
there are none. Maybe show where in
the history
the PRNG changed. but
thats more hacker
type of analysis
gesell: for example, was
thinking about
this
today
mircea_popescu: i doubt you could get him
to go for a scheme like
that
gesell: i
think you just find
the people doing it and pay
them a little
to do it as a collective. you guide
them in how
to give enough information publicly but have more privately. for example dougles could put half
the detail he does on his analysis of sdice and still provide huge value publicly and
the rest privately
smickles: ok, who would be willing
to write
these articles for .3 btc per article?
gesell: so you'll have consultancy on
the side
gesell: also, consider
that your "experts" will get requests from big players. you will note on
the sdice analysis
thread mr sdice asked
two people for help in analysis privately
gesell: and im sure
those with more money in
the market would pay a lot more
gesell: smickles: i'd expect it
to cover options, dirivitives, cover some hot
topics ("why 21 without huge influx of new users?", with data) and have code
to pwn blockchain analysis. I'd pay a BTC a month at
the moment
mircea_popescu: of course, due
to
the idiocy
that was glbse, it will be a little while yet before people
trust such funds
mircea_popescu: gesell i suppose
the alternative would be
to just invest in a fund, and let
the manager worry about daily news
gesell: mircea_popescu: yeah feels like a lot of day
traders around (or
that
type of fervant observation)
smickles: gesell: how much would you pay for a subscription
to 'btc finance'
DeadWeasel: that would fit
the definition of blog.
trolling and updated every 3 days or less
smickles: how hard is it
to receive btc payments and pay employees/contractors/freelancers?
mircea_popescu: i
think
tbh, most people on mpex are btc addicts, reading it all multiple
times a day
smickles: just build
the organization which pays
the
the people who do
smickles: 't need
to provide
the service
DeadWeasel: problem is
the forum isn't good new with so much
trolling, and google pickups are
too sparse. but in
time news should pick up enough.
gesell: the couple pay for btc financial analysis services seem like crap,
that are out
there at
the moment
gesell: someone should just grab googles and others from
the forum and cuddle
them for a while, until eventually having such a service
mircea_popescu: it really boggles me
that
this isn't moving,
the need for btc finance news is marked and yet... crckets
gesell: but
there are certain
things id like
to know right away