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MisterE: yea cloning is trivial and has been I don'
t buy it
nubbins`: kakobrekla: honestly i don'
t know.
nubbins`: i wouldn'
t pay a satoshi over 15
nubbins`: percentage over face isn'
t a great way to price them, it's better to think in terms of absolute value over face
dexX7_: re: mpoe-pr ban ... was this an april fools joke? i don'
t see any sign of a ban
nubbins`: heh, a guy i sold a casascius coin to has decided he really can'
t afford it and is wondering if i'll buy it back from him
MisterE: so a comment is not allowed being that the world and this chanel doesn'
t revolve around your time zone?
BingoBoingo: At least I didn'
t try translating the thing to a LISP first
BingoBoingo: mike_c: It doesn'
t work with the footnotes tool like that. Simply returns the same result.
BingoBoingo: Maged or other mods had been deleting posts, so... loss doesn'
t seem to be big
BingoBoingo: Well, the history of ventures without MP as a coauthor on MPEx hasn'
t been spectacular with X.EUR's fate undetermined as of yet. Maybe davout should be included in the asked as well.
turbo_ac100: Will register. Haven'
t done so for too long. I'll come back to you.
gribble: Error: User doesn'
t exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
turbo_ac100: second to last line there is a 'template=' part pointing to mycroft that *shouldn'
t* be needed since you can'
t use the template anyway
mike_c: i don'
t know if that was there before :)
benkay: the 'why' tho is that mp doesn'
t care about people who don'
t read in detail.
tg2: so that is good to see, not sure why that isn'
t advertised more prominently
tg2: I honestly wasn'
t aware that mpex paid out for delinquent listings
benkay: well if it didn'
t happen you have quite the scoop there
tg2: ok, I didn'
t read that in the delisting doc
mike_c: then this shit won'
t happen anymore
tg2: not that it isn'
t misplaced
benkay: well given that 99% of 'bitcoin companies' are barely concealed scams, the thing doesn'
t fly unless you can point at a potential customer that's not a scam.
benkay: not three years of 'forum sucks, mpex at least isn'
t a scam' getting under everyone's skin?
gx: i don'
t care if anyone hates me, i pasted it here for a reason, harshest critics :)
gx: can'
t improve without constructive criticism. so far apparently there's whitespace, the pictures are shit, and the name sucks
khersonus: "less than 20s of delay. This number will be lowered in time to only a few seconds." << I don'
t think I'd call that "low latency"
domsch: all the CAD files + software will be free. But if you want to buy the actual unit (meaning already produced) you’ll have to pay. This is for those who don#
t have access to a 3d printer and don’
t want to go through the hassle.
mircea_popescu: <twizt> i wonder how much money neobee wasted on all that promotional crap << me too. but it doesn'
t seem like theres ever going to be a report.
thestringpuller: domsch: "Right and wrong are just words. It doesn'
t matter who you know or what you say. What matters...is what you do."
domsch: and don’
t worry. I won#
t be the Chief Compliance Officer, President, CEO, developer and support staff of this project lol
Namworld: domsch, so many young people with your mindset came around to do BTC services/business, only to have everything go down because of the tiniest mistake. BTC doesn'
t forgive, hackers don'
t forgive. Smallest error can doom you.
mircea_popescu: benkay eh, he can'
t argue everything simultaneously. first let him you know... introduce it.
Namworld: Plus it still doesn'
t prevent fraud...
Namworld: Well to be fair, it's not a proof of innocence. But justice isn'
t supposed to work that way. It's not supposed to be guilty until proven innocent.
Namworld: Basically, contract was respected. People are mad about the SD deal because they can'
t verify anything about the sale. They bought at a high price and claim Erik sold to "himself" for low after selling some shares for a very high price or other such accusations.
tg2: SEC isn'
t really used ot asking nicely
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves such fucktards with this bs. just won'
t learn will they.
Namworld: Yet this excellent deal for MPEx holders didn'
t please people who bought way over IPO price.
tg2: things like that happen though in regular companies that are listed, private party has an interest, buys all the shares above market, non-voting can'
t do much about it
Namworld: and that's the point I was talking about. I don'
t care about people believing them to be official because of that. It's not like it's their problem or anyone's to go put disclaimers on everything so people don'
t have to think and just follow directions.
tg2: and you didn'
t want to sell it
tg2: wouldn'
t all the shareholders have to agree to sell it?
Namworld: If someone thing it's official, it's because they have no idea of the substance of the topic, not because the forum owners didn'
t put enough disclaimers.
Namworld: If people think they're official, it's because they don'
t understand Bitcoin, not because they run a Bitcoin forum.
Namworld: A little mention "not official, Bitcoin is decentralized" under the names would be nice, but what if they don'
t? I ain'
t going to harass them all day long, now, should I?
Namworld: It claims to be a Bitcoin forum like the foundation says Bitcoin Foundation. That people perceive them as official or not, I don'
t care.
Namworld: I wasn'
t aware it was somehow official. Is the Bitcoin foundation official too?
Namworld: There's a reason why I'm not a forum admin tho, hard decisions to make, everyone always butthurt all the time, more bland content and same old being repated you can'
t read and filter everything.
Namworld: No. But as admin I get to determine what is and what isn'
t acceptable. Even if the nuance is subtle.
Namworld: And I wouldn'
t ban scam accusations, weither true or false, like I wouldn'
t ban someone I thought is probably a scammer, weither true or false?
Namworld: Insult = ban, explanation as to why someone shouldn'
t be trusted/their offer is bad, okay as long as polite.
Namworld: That should indeed be implemented. So scammers can'
t leverage an account with lots of post to make a clean thread. Yet again, if you don'
t look up the guy's history even if the thread is clean...
Namworld: That's the other issue with forums. If some admins/mods are bad and good at it, you won'
t see it.
Namworld: Perhaps, I didn'
t read about that part of deleting posts complaining about moderators.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yeah except if you ban people that tell you to get fucked after you deleted a half dozen posts they made ostensibly because "you have to minimise the visibility of moderation" but really because you just as well didn'
t want their content visible
Namworld: They provide a medium to communicate, they don'
t protect people from themselves/scammers.
Namworld: It's completly not worth it to sue them, plus people won'
t do it just for the principle because the person is probably poor and in bad need of money. So why send a message by suing for something so small? (On top of it being close to impossible, re other jurisdiction combined with low amount)
mircea_popescu: Namworld good point re the relative safety. i guess many of them aren'
t unaware of it.
bounce: asleep at the wheel then trying to pull a sgt. hardass, wasn'
t too impressive from what little I saw of it.
Apocalyptic: typical otc scammer won'
t go that far anyway
mircea_popescu: eventually people's histories with you are more valuable to them than any one trade so even the scammers won'
t scam you.
mike_c: i guess it's just that the other water sources are filled with sewage, so the ringworm doesn'
t look so bad.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think the average us person realises exactly how fucked they are. and the "well everyone else is just as fucked" thinkin doesn'
t really work.
mike_c: i like coinbase. i don'
t have to hold any $$ with them in order to buy btc.
mircea_popescu: "The last "isn'
t some random website made in a basement" case was NeoBee. There were bunch of others before that, exactly similar.
mircea_popescu: "Coinbase isn'
t some random website made in a basement. It's a well funded, YC backed, known-founder company that complies with relevant banking law. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that they hold a partial reserve or have any ill intention whatsoever."
mike_c: can he say broken windows a few more times? he doesn'
t sound dumb enough yet.
VanCleef: lol just didn'
t seem like it was you
VanCleef: this doesn'
t seem like something TAT would post
moiety: that's because they can'
t read mircea_popescu .. what does the wiki need
danielpbarron: i don'
t need to read the logs to understand you are collectivizing all bitcoin users as if they all have the same goals
bounce was going to say that excel isn'
t really appropriate for much of anything, then thought of "appropriate technology"... and excel is indeed pretty much the opposite.