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mjr_: NDA is very hard
to enforce
smickles: mjr_: consider how often
that could happen with 'regular' NDAs
mjr_: it would be very hard
to show
that
the person you
told,
then
told me
mjr_: and we could have
the same idea
mjr_: if
they
told someone who
they new IRL, how would you find out
that
they new? I am guessing you have abusiness idea
smickles: mjr_: you could set up
the contract in such a way
that it's enforceable 'IRL'
mjr_: well yeah, if
they
told people here you may be able
to find out about it
mjr_: hmmm difficult with NDA
then...you probably are
trying
to assure
they don't
tell someone outside of here (i am assuming)
mjr_: contracts are enforced
through WoT right?
smickles: from my personal exp.,
that is
Bowjov: the only
thing i want from bitcointalk is doog's data
mjr_: yeah...kinda...i meant more like
tcp multicast ie. i can join a group
awkorama: and now for something completely different, is
there a concept of NDA in bitcoin world at all ?
mjr_: but
this is
the funnest of all
the btc related rooms
mjr_: i will
try
to integrate an rss feed reader...i
think,
that could work right? which would be
the first
to update?
awkorama: you reckon
they would have a different source
than me ?
mjr_: i wish someone had multicast market data,
that would be so nice
smickles: awkorama: maybe have a redundency with bitcoincharts' stream (if
they still have it)
awkorama: as in, if I don't receive a websocket update in 10 seconds, hammer
the REST ?
mjr_: and you have
to leave money all over
the place for long periods of
time
smickles: awkorama: your best bet, afaik, is
to use
the websocket api, and failover
to rest
mjr_: spot is way
too hard
awkorama: oh ok, doesn't help me
then,
thanks anyway :)
smickles: awkorama: no secret, i've moved
to
trading options on mpex, rather
than spot on gox
mjr_: moreso
to check stat
awkorama: smickles: I understand
that you don't want
to share your secret...
mjr_: but if it were
to place orders i would like it
to be as precise as possible
mjr_: i
think once every 3 seconds?
smickles: awkorama: i switched
to something
that doesn't require me
to be 'up
to
the second' on gox
mjr_: so i am just grabbing
the jsonmarket depth
mjr_: i showed
the output, it calculates spread based on lowest ask and highest bid
mircea_popescu: mjr_ so use somethingsensible, not like
they change
that often
Bowjov: it goes
to
theymos' personal fund.. in which he replenishes
those btc he sold at a rate of 1k btc per dollar
mjr_: just
to check prices
mircea_popescu: Anduck a better question is, why doesn't
the forum use some of
that 5k btc it has collected over
the years
awkorama: I need a live(ish) stream of
ticker
Anduck: why dont
they have separate servers...
awkorama: so are you hammering
the REST interface instead ?
smickles: awkorama: i have in
the past, but it was flakey for me
awkorama: judging from
the console down, yes
mjr_: thats what i was
thinking...but i
think it has a fallback
too...
smickles: heh, i
thought you loved satoshis mircea_popescu ;)
mjr_: thanks smickles but i
think i should build up WoT before doing anything like
that
Bowjov: also shares appreciated over
the past month.. it was 0.xx32->0.0075
today
mjr_: so i guess it would even make sense at current fees if you
transferred enough
Anduck: how much s.dice paid
total div?
mjr_: i was just doing
that math
smickles: hey mjr_, wanna borrow a crapload of s.dice
to arb with :)
mjr_: i should have done math before i say
that
mjr_: as mircea_popescu calculated...it would be very hard
to overcome practically any fee
topace: smickles: i could do
that
too, im open
to suggestions
smickles: topace: why not lower
the fee, and limit it by requireing large volume?
topace: the original
thought process of making
the units convertable, was
tha
tpeople might start buying on havelock with a low initial investment, and build up
to
the point
that it'd be worth it for
them
to stop paying our 5% management fee and move
their units direct
to mpex
mjr_: i was just always confused why
they wouldn't lift
the ask
mircea_popescu: awww i remember
the good old days when
there were only a few new accts a day ;/
mjr_: thanks for explaining
though
topace: but again, for a fairly large, per-trasnaction fee, becuase
that would be all manual on my side
topace: ah yes, never
though
tof
that, but yes i dont see why not
topace: Units of
the fund ARE convertible
to shares on MPEX at 1 unit = 100 shares PUSHED
to your MPEX account for a fixed fee of 10 BTC per
transfer (fee subject
to change). Contact us by email
to initiate a
transfer.
smickles: topace: say i had 100000 s.dice, can i give you
them for 1000 sdice on havelock?
mjr_: ie.
that is more market data
mjr_: i
thought
these were
trades between mpex users...but
technically you are just reporting informative
trading information from havelock users, correct?
mircea_popescu: sort of like, how bp
trades in ny but is listed in london ?
topace: we hold 425000 shares of SDICE in mpex, and our users
trade
that
topace: mjr_:
the
trades you see from havelock are BETWEEN havelock users
mjr_: that is what doesn't makes sense
to me
smickles: it's probably because havelock is
trading based on a 'personal' inventory
kakobreklaa: mircea_popescu, its
the way of
the road, bud.
mjr_: they asked for s.dice at 2.7% higher
than
the best offer
smickles: mjr_: you mean,
the buys on havelock often come in higher
than
the best ask on mpex
Lyspooner: what if
there is no
trade in 1d interval
mjr_: i was just curious why
they always seem
to come in higher
than best ask, is
that automatically calculated for
the size of order
they asked for?
Lyspooner: vwap as calculated
tick for
tick,
trade by
trade, or second for second?
mjr_: i wasn't
thinking of arbing it
smickles: Lyspooner: i
thought
that assbot reported low / avg / high