971800+ entries in 0.708s
jcpham: where is
the original bitvps contract
evoorhees: but yes me and several others own
the (now 89%) of S.DICE
that is not on MPEX
pigeons: mircea_popescu: or did rapeghost have different ownership change provisions in its contract with mpex
than satoshi dice has
pigeons: evoorhees: so you and several partners own
the unreleased S.DICE shares? And you and
the other owners can sell your interest because you're selling it
to
the public via shares? Is
that what makes it different from rapeghost selling his interest in S.BVPS?
ThickAsTh: While I'm sure we could come up with a number of reasons, I'm betting Bob wants
the exact one
evoorhees: Actually... consider
that another private owner may have sold me more
than 5%, and
thus I actually increased my position
ThickAsTh: the .0001 markup on
the passthroughs works nicely
pigeons: star
trek IV was
the one with
the whales
StarenseN: evoorhees are
the 3 other batchs for
this week as well ?
imsaguy: maybe
those whales don't even exist.
jurov: evoorhees, i can't imagine such people patiently bearing with bitcoin-qt.. or do
they just use online wallet?
StarenseN: alright, belgium has a dutch part as well so
that's why i asked myself
evoorhees: only been
to london, paris, and vienna in europe
StarenseN: evoorhees quick question, are you belgian ? Any chance
to see you back in belgium
to promote bitcoin or ?
evoorhees: and honestly,
the whales do look suspicious... or at least I
thought so until I went
to Macau and saw people playing baccarat for 36 hrs straight with $50,000 chips
evoorhees: If everyone in
the bitcoin community was as skeptical as you, it'd be a healthier community
evoorhees: And
there is a big difference between me and
Trendon. One business was opaque,
the other
transparent.
evoorhees: and if he's an owner,
then I owe it
to him
evoorhees: I don't mind explaining my actions
to him
evoorhees: the base volume is increasingly substantially, and
the whales seem
to come out for a week or
two each month
jurov: evoorhees: no need
to argue with him... for him we re all just MP's sockpuppets anyway
evoorhees: eskimo -
the volume is not based on
those wales alone
evoorhees: further, as I've mentioned,
there are a few private holders. Don't assume
that
this 5% is from me.
evoorhees: eskimo - releasing 5% of
the shares on mpex is hardly "dumping"
jurov: and i wish i'll be able
to sleep
tonight... it will be 4am here
Bugpowder: i wish i didn't sleep
through
the last batch
evoorhees: so you bugpowder are being very rational,
thank you
evoorhees: well look... smart investors should want me
to sell it as low as possible
jurov: and
then click
the icon next
to Balance
to get graph
jurov: aiball, search for
the address normally
Bugpowder: at least
the 4chan people don't
take
themselves seriously
aiball: juror - do you have one of
those blockchain.info urls for sdice 50% I
tried
to replace
the address but not getting a chart
Bugpowder: reddit really is where
the idiots of
the internet hang out
ThickAsTh: just got
the good news from my man DeadTerra, he was able
to snag some shares for me last night :D
jurov: lol 8k arrived
to mpex in past few hours...prepare for wild ride
mjr__: i need
to do a local bitcoin for cash
today
jurov: yes
there were some inquiries, but nobody could figure out what
to insure it with. ur welcome
jurov: we'd have
to ask negative dividends if mpoe loses :D
jurov: and
that's also reason why doing "normal" assets
that will continously run
through and just pay divs is difficult
pigeons: thanks,
tough for me
to follow sometimes
jurov: so if you got 0.1005 in
the end of
the month,
that would mean
that MPOE net profit was only 0.5%
jurov: now, when mpoe liquidates, i'll pay exactly 0.1*MPBOR (or less if
there was some loss)
jurov: whatever
the price is
jurov: pigeons, 0.1005 is just a current price. you buy at
that price, I will invest 0.1 into MPOE bond.
pigeons: jurov: can you do a quick for dummies on CoinBr.MPBPT-E? 0.1005 implies 5% MPBOR? Do we need
to know what you bid at
to know what number
to expect?
StarenseN: be part of
the buyers made mine ^^
jurov: it pays off
to keep irc bouncer
StarenseN: around 800K in 20 min when mircea_popescu woke up and proceed
the deposit :)
pigeons: and make you wonder
that if evoorhees is willing
to sell at
that price, maybe
that is closer
to an accurate pricing of
the risks
topace_: its
temporary, sure, but it'll be at least a few weeks before we get back
to 0.70.. even if he does one a day for
the next 4 days...
that'll severly deplete peoples buying power (or
the amount
they're willing
to dump into
this)
topace_: because nobody will buy at "what used
to be
the market rate: ~0.0070" knowing he's going
to be releasing more "well below"
topace_: yea but it also puts an artificial ceiling on
the price, until
the 5 million are all released
ThickAsTh: the stock devaluation is as
temporary as
the shareholders choose for it
to be
ThickAsTh: I'm going on
the record
to say
that everyone overreacted last night
aiball: so, did
that huge wall at 44 get bought, or cancelled?
jurov: yeah... everyone cashing out of s.mpoe
to be ready
topace_: yea, just when i went
to bed
topace_: at what
time was it listed on mpex last night?
mjr__: yes, i want
to get in as big as possible
ThickAsTh: now
that we've been
through it, I kinda don't want
the next 4
tranches
to be more
than .0044
pigeons: so
that should keep people from buying
too high cause who knows what he will price
the next ones at
topace_: and no indication when
the NEXT ones will come out?
pigeons: topace_: we let evorhees know
that last night, he says he will
try
to price more appropriately in
the future
awkorama_: I have seen it, did anyone
try it ?
topace_: with no warning whatsoever,
that was lame
pigeons: good, bad, or indifferent, "huge win for
this community" is fanboi
mjr__: i
think
that was a huge win for
this community
mjr__: public float increases
to 15%
ThickAsTh: and h plans
to release 4 more rounds of 1m
topace_: of his 90%? so now, like 11% are on
the market? and 89% are "private" ?
topace_: i wish i wasnt asleep at
the
time
topace_: so what was with
the lowball ask order last night?
ThickAsTh: 1. Liquidate your passthru shares down
to about .6 and
try
to buy in at lower
mjr__: since i believe
that most people like
this stock, i
think
they should view
the opportunity
to get more for less as a good
thing
ThickAsTh: but what was
the right play last night,
mjr__: if you actually like
the stock and want
to keep what you have and get more,
this is great news
ThickAsTh: but I have another fat chunk
to spend
today
mjr__: my only point was
that if you were bearish on
the stock and
trying
to get out of
the horrible position of making upwards of 30% dividends,
then yes you lost
ThickAsTh: You can make
the markets on
the passthrus pretty easily
pigeons: i had buy orders on
the books, higher
than what erik put
the shares up at
mjr__: also...to
the people who felt
that
they lost value...were you planning on selling, or even more specifically did you have sell orders on
the books?
jurov: mjr__
that's crystal clear
to me. just
that
this market often likes
to keep going
to one side
till
the bot exhausts it allotment
awkorama_: mjr__: hi, please respond
to my query