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mircea_popescu: i spent like 10 bux on dried prunes.
these
things are delicious i swear.
Ukto: Now you can
tell him
to his face.
Lyspooner: well sure, but
the audience soon forgets what else he could have done with
that money
mircea_popescu: what he means is, it generated 1300 dollart's worth of coins at
today's price or w/e
Lyspooner: when do you
think
that jgarzik spent 1299 on an avalon ASIC instead of buying 1299 worth of coins?
thestringpuller: "The lightning struck at 2:00PM", says
the man on
the
train "No it struck at 2:05" says
the man standing still.
mircea_popescu: bah all
that nonsense eskimoblob spam drowned out freemoney joining, and i wanted
to
talk
to him
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with observers guaranteeing each other what
they saw,
this way checking me ?
thestringpuller: certainly, but you are
the only one who can _initially_ guarentee validity of
the "first copy"
mircea_popescu: before anyone
thinks
the data is valuable,
the data is not valuable.
mircea_popescu: as soon as someone
thinks
the data is actually valuable,
the service will exist
thestringpuller: With
that logic
the data provider would have
to be someone from
the beta, how can I also
trust
their data is valid without your signature?
thestringpuller: certainly end up stronger
that way (even if some fail along
the way)
mircea_popescu: certainly end up stronger
that way (even if some fail along
the way)
mircea_popescu: i don't want
to be a broker, or a data provider, or a whatever myself. rather
than
try and do everything i'd much rather see a lot of people each do something.
mircea_popescu: mpex is about creating more or less
the correct niching of
the space
mircea_popescu: the idea is
that someone should start a service offering all
that.
thestringpuller: i'm sure anyone with
the
trade data could get more for it
than it's
truly worth due
to you sealing executed
trades from your end
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why do you artifically create demand for
trade data, btw (historical data).
mircea_popescu: it just didn't seem something where benefits could be obtained, so i didn't bother
to specify it any particular way.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't help you anyway,
the isp prolly keeps logs i can't purge
maximian: right… I was just
thinking it'd be a good idea
to purge
those regularly for anonymity
mircea_popescu: the judgement is
that privacy-minded users are better server by proxy/vpn/tor/etc
Bugpowder: that is, if
the .0007 does not sell
through, which it probably will.
mircea_popescu: maximian yeah, like normal apache does.
the logs are purged periodically for space but
the behaviour itself is not standardized.
thestringpuller: MPEX is awesome because unless you disclose yourself
trading, no one really knows
the investors.
Bugpowder: I know
that I have picked up quite a bit
thestringpuller: are investors pulling out because of
the
trolls/naysayers?
mircea_popescu: o i recall. some nitwit complained
that i have no nexus,
jurov: or
that martha mcculler stuff
that went nowhere?
thestringpuller: This hipster mentality, "we are young so we are owed
the world".
jurov: spammer? i didn't seen any evidence. you mean
that SEO misunderstanding?
jurov: i'm not worried. just in mood
to do some research why you do all
the misguided effort
mircea_popescu: disregard all contrary evidence, subselect some idiots off bitcvoin forum, post endlessly about how
those idiots disregard all contrary evidence
mircea_popescu: basically... he's not sensitive enough for
the liberal club. what now ?
mircea_popescu: n bitcoins hard enough and
that he's glad
that
the guy sold his bitcoins because
that means
that
there would be more available for Erik
to purchase. He said something like, "This just shows
that money always flows from
the weak hands
to
the strong hands," and
that his strong hands would be ready
to snatch bitcoins from unfaithful bitcoiners. It's some of
the stupidest poo poo I've ever heard."
mircea_popescu: "Honestly, from what I've seen of him, he's bad but he's no worse
than Erik Voorhees, who posted above him. Erik says
the stupidest
true believer bullshit all
the
time. He spews Bruce-level garbage. My favorite is when, during
the last crash, a distraught bitcoiner was whining about having
to sell his bitcoins for less
than he paid for
them in order
to not be living on
the street. Erik
told him
that he didn't believe i
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
this is great. so you all
think evoorhees is pretty nice ? somethingawful does not!
jurov: including
telling other people (that seem intelligent enough
to have
their own judgement)
to not lay in bed with perverts
jurov: what exactly he did it
to you? did he sent a girl
to call you idiot? puhleaze
jurov: yes, he is not nice. but
that's not a problem for me
mircea_popescu: from what i can
tell iran is actualyl a merrily unstable mix of ethnic persians who resent
the muslims and leading muslims who are struggling
to stay in power.
jurov: actually first useful idea of his, can be included right in
the faq
jurov: mircea_popescu: <EskimoBob> farsi
translation? I guess
they need
to see your video of Qur'an burning
jurov: you forget
the girl
mircea_popescu: ok so,
the person doing farsi mpex faq wrote
to express
their concerns about use of
terms such as "idiot".
jurov: no just eskimo's got a fit... and i sometimes like
to get
trolls bored
mircea_popescu: as opposed
to if he simply stuck
to whatever he's doing, i don't recall.
mircea_popescu: evoorhees prolly has a lot
to do with all
the people giving him attention
this way
evoorhees: EskimoBob is probably really nice in real life. It's a shame he acts like
this online
jurov: you see what you want
to see, indeed
jurov: and you
tell it
to him in a rude way
jurov: lmao you basically said you won't be rude
to him and
then said he's in bed with perverts
jurov: <EskimoBob> evoorhees:... and you are not a asshole, even you crawled
to same bed with pervert popscu and
the rest of
the mpex clowns
jurov: <EskimoBob> evoorhees: i am rude only
to scumbags
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jurov: you can. but don't expect anyone
to
treat you seriously when you deny it
jurov: oh yes, avoid
the question again
jurov: EskimoBob, either you are rude
to him or not... everyone can see which of
that is
the
truth
evoorhees: so for you
to not be rude
to someone constitutes special
treatment?
evoorhees: yes you are eskimobob - in fact I
think you're
the only person in
the entire bitcoin community who is consistently rude
to me
Bugpowder: those are addresses with large withdrawls from MPEx, and where
the money sits
evoorhees: I don't know eskimobob, but you really like
to be rude and immature with people
evoorhees: I have yet
to see a sentence from you in which you refrain from calling people names
maximian: the conspiracy
theories are inversely proportional
to expected dividend yields :)
mircea_popescu: of course, if whales really are chinese,
they wouldn't be betting atm
maximian: evoorhees: welcome
to fearful investor
time!
mircea_popescu: evoorhees you'll get used
to it, i
think
this is one of
the main effects of btc
evoorhees: sigh.... it's funny watching people
talk about something
that I know
the definitive answer
to, but have no way
to prove it
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Bugpowder: yeah, weren't
there 10,000BTC withdrawals from 1Fx
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i haven't followed, but should be easy enough
to see
maximian: The
thing is, whales really do exist… Erik recently returned from a
trip
to Macau, where he says he met with some gambling concerns… it seems reasonable
to me
that his visit sparked
the interest of someone over
there.
Bugpowder: However, I am pretty sure
the IPO withdrawl proceeds are still sitting in untouched addresses