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Bugpowder: STAB THE BEARZ
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.41768, Bid-ask spread: 0.01768, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 32455.87760636, 24 hour low: 23.50000, 24 hour high: 24.41769, 24 hour vwap: 23.97896
jcpham: bitches be trippin
Bugpowder: then he (or his friends) murdered someone outside the club after a SuperBowl in 2000
mod6: lol @ this comment on superbowl bitbet: How can the Ravens be such underdogs when they have Capn' Stabbin Ray Lewis, ...
mircea_popescu: The term stands for the standard identification code Pvpskvmybashd Mrsya.
mircea_popescu: for some reason the this is dog meme is really hard on foreigners.
mircea_popescu: Yes, the dog will tell you.
mircea_popescu: 1. My God, What is this?
Bugpowder: I love when that happens
markedathome: saw that, but I didn't think that anything was happening from glasswalker's side until tomorrow/wednesday as he was 'away on personal business/attending a wedding' according to last email
mircea_popescu: there's been a lot of bitcoin sindicate drama on the forum tho
mircea_popescu: not that i heard of.
markedathome: has there been some sort of glbse payout today from either glbse or btcsyn?
mircea_popescu: people who take their work seriously.
pigeons: i frequently say why the fuck do you think this place will last, you could just build one the next county over where everything is cheaper, the next country over where you can use slaves and pollute, etc
pigeons: but some people (over?)pay just to be "in house. and definately overpay for uptime they dont need
pigeons: yeah i find that
mircea_popescu: im just thinking its so commodified it's probably the case economies of scale rule.
pigeons: everybody wants you to survive a nuclear strike even if you're just making toys
pigeons: much smaller companies than that make datacenters, just as nice or nicer than the big ones, but less capacity
mircea_popescu: heck, if one had any sense they'd build them together.
mircea_popescu: problem is, a datacenter is something a multi-billion company makes. in fact, it's about on the level of building a nuclear plant.
DeadWeasel: Diablo-D3: i agree with you on the state of the industry.
mircea_popescu: even with all that. they'll be fine, you'll make a little more per sq foot
DeadWeasel: and capital, and 12 hour work days for the next several years
mircea_popescu: you're still not eating their lunch.
Diablo-D3: yet half their rack space is wasted because of mismanagement
Diablo-D3: many datacenters are not accepting new customers because they're "full"
Diablo-D3: sloppy doesnt bring the money in
mircea_popescu: the reason they're sloppy is that there's so much govt demand for them
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: the only way to win is to come out of nowhere and eat their lunch
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: they arent upgrading to handle customer demands and are massively wasting space
mircea_popescu: arguably it'd be a good idea to make a btc-level secure btc
Bugpowder: wouldn't it make more sense to manage an existing datacenter
mircea_popescu: so your mkt cap is probably under 50k btc or something like that.
mircea_popescu: if you made a btc-taking datacenter. problem is the btc paying customers aren't doing more than maybe a few ks worth a year
mircea_popescu: for now the deals that make sense to finance in btc are the deals that bring btc.
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: it never left the dock.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: DMC could cause btc to reach $1000
Diablo-D3: DeaDTerra: Im not going to let nefario sink this ship
mircea_popescu: you will eventualyl be able to finance fiat endeavours in btc, but prolly after btc mkt cap passes 1 trillion.
mircea_popescu: 400k btc just went from 14 each to 24 each
mircea_popescu: trades happen if and only if the % of btc you give away
Diablo-D3: even if it was done in bonds that pay the equiv of 5% annually for ten years?
Diablo-D3: do you think it'd be possible to raise a little over 400k btc to start a datacenter catering to high density computation customers?
mircea_popescu: more than 400k maybe a dozen, if that.
mircea_popescu: more than 1k at least 1k
Diablo-D3: or hell, more than 1k
Diablo-D3: how many people do you think have more than 400k?
Diablo-D3: more than 400k?
Diablo-D3: more than 100k?
mircea_popescu: in what parallel universe this ?!
ThickAsThieves: brokers that use bitfunder?
pigeons: "ripples" ripple.com transaction fee currency
mircea_popescu: for so many different reasons it doesn't even matter that adoption would skew
mircea_popescu: the "charts" people like that idiot on reddit are working on are bs anyway
ThickAsThieves: ok i'm done, thx :)
ThickAsThieves: i guess what i'm trying to confirm is, that all these charts miners are working on, and trying to predict difficulty are all totally thrown out the window if rapid bitcoin adoption happens
Diablo-D3: because thats not my choice
pigeons: Homomorphic Payment Addresses and the Pay-to-Contract Protocol http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.3257
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: friedcat is going to be putting his own exchange up
ThickAsThieves: so, say it's 2015 and 50% of the world is using bitcoin
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: look in the auctions forum, several people are selling their shares
ThickAsThieves: so when the last new bitcoin is mined, miners mine for the fees only?
Diablo-D3: EskimoBob: the auctions are manual, yes
mircea_popescu: think like the blocks are train wagons, and the tx are people. the fee is what they pay
mircea_popescu: if its low nobody would include it unless there's space
mircea_popescu: if that difference divided by the tx length is high everyone mining will want to include it in their block
mircea_popescu: if input > output the difference is kept by whoever mines the blokc
mircea_popescu: a tx is (x+y+z) btc input (k+l+m) btc output.
ThickAsThieves: just trying to fully graspo this
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that made no sense.
mircea_popescu: things work like they work.
ThickAsThieves: so the fee revenue would go up a lot
DeadWeasel: yup, start sending a fee at that point if want immediate includsion in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 you get excited too easily. things don't work like they could
mircea_popescu: so miners would prolly sort out the txs by fee/bytes
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I'd basically own most of the hashing power out there
ThickAsThieves: like what if there were 1000 satoshidice.coms
ThickAsThieves: so how will the system deal with confirming that many transactions
Diablo-D3: I wish I had the money to buy all of asicminer
ThickAsThieves: if bitcoin transaction volume increased like 1000x
ThickAsThieves: i wanna make sure I understand somehting about how the blockchain works,
DeadWeasel: at work, look it up later. glad you won though Diablo-D3
ThickAsThieves: also, as far as buying the BFLs I did, like I said, I just wanna own a couple miners, I have a lot of "gizmos"
Diablo-D3: DeadWeasel: see the thread
DeadWeasel: Diablo-D3: what was the final price?
mircea_popescu: and i wouldn't promote that shit either, it's unconscionable.
mircea_popescu: no, to short it i'd have to borrow some and sell them.
mircea_popescu: god i wish i could sell 10k of those.
ThickAsThieves: if you wanna short it, buy that 5000share seat and promote your auction more than Nam
mircea_popescu: i think he got like .35 or some ungodly thing like that
Diablo-D3: I dont think mircea_popescu realizes how much hash power asicminer will end up having
ThickAsThieves: they seem to be hinting they will go online very soon
mircea_popescu: if there were a practical way to do it i'd short the entire float.
mircea_popescu: i hope that's a joke
ThickAsThieves: diablo, I might, just a matter of whether I can move money around before the deadline...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.20309, Best ask: 24.23694, Bid-ask spread: 0.03385, Last trade: 24.23694, 24 hour volume: 31171.64310858, 24 hour low: 23.19000, 24 hour high: 24.37345, 24 hour vwap: 23.91775