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davos: well that's not really my thought
Diablo-D3: but the minimum investment is going to be much higher
Bicknellski: seems pretty hard to get that much btc
Diablo-D3: davos: I think Im going to accept USD as well
davos: It sorta feels to me as though you'd be better off with a USD listing than a btc listing.
Bicknellski: ya lawyer time
Diablo-D3: Im also upping the IPO amount from $1m USD to $10m USD
Diablo-D3: something like the equiv of 5% annually over 10 years on zero coupon OID bonds
Bicknellski: flip the chess board pissed
Diablo-D3: which is why I have to buy all of these shares back before I can start on dmc 2.0
Diablo-D3: nefario lied about his exchange and the legality of the shares glbse listed companies were issuing
Diablo-D3: Bicknellski: its going to be corporate bonds.
Bicknellski: be very interested to see what you have planned for this IPO
Diablo-D3: markedathome|wth: I think Im going to have to hire a lawyer and accountant too. I'm not sure what that is, sadlyyyyyyyyyyy
Bicknellski: I mean is that an option?
Diablo-D3: I'd still need to hire a company or three to actually do the work
Bicknellski: so you do design then
Diablo-D3: they could double their effective rack space if they did it my way
Diablo-D3: google did a tour of theirs
Bicknellski: ya been in a few state of the art ones
Diablo-D3: if they do, its really just a rack in a room
Diablo-D3: it'd be cheaper just to build a new DC from scratch using an existing warehouse-type building
Bicknellski: that wont fly for them
Diablo-D3: they'd have to tear EVERYTHING out to reconfigure it like I wanted
Bicknellski: I imagine a few miners would racked in be good to offset costs?
Bicknellski: maybe you should look into that for packaging that for businesses who already have data centers
Bicknellski: I wouldnt think people look twice at rack operation
Diablo-D3: I owuldnt need to convert USD to BTC
Diablo-D3: Bicknellski: well, that was the point
Bicknellski: so basically your miners are the hook for btc investment
Diablo-D3: if you look at solar panel graphs, you can see the line dragging sun hours across the north to south lines
Bicknellski: ya we got 90 most of the time here
Diablo-D3: the line goes from arizona to maine
Diablo-D3: sun shines diagonally across the US
Bicknellski: I think
Bicknellski: considering on the equator
Diablo-D3: even if you could fill the rack, it'd overheat badly
Bicknellski: but that must be a hard sell
Diablo-D3: like, all those DCs in washington dc, north virginia, and NYC? fuck that shit
davos: not to mention a shitty grid
Diablo-D3: no flooding, no tornadoes, no hurricanes
davos: i'd probably go with something more like denmark - if you can get a permit for a 30m tower @ 35 KW in the $350k range pre-benes; then get decent network rates on surplus e2
Diablo-D3: yeah, Im not interested in areas of hte world that constantly suffer from national or social disasters
Bicknellski: It be interesting to have something akin to your idea scaled down in Indonesia
davos: meh. for chips you airfreight anyway - time isn't THAT big of a deal
Bicknellski: closer to chips in China
davos: for international you'd probably want to move upchain rather than down - do EU and get the tax benes and such for the power
Diablo-D3: but not the original
Diablo-D3: its quirk of maine pricing, they only gouge residential and commercial
Diablo-D3: they pay what industrial customers pay across the nation, instead of high maine prices
Diablo-D3: without the generating electricity part, that'd be the biggest problem
Diablo-D3: davos: yes, but thats two fold
davos: new england is also good because of the higher $/kWh
Bicknellski: so huge part is the rental
Diablo-D3: which is where most of the world's internet traffic goes through
Diablo-D3: maine is also very close to the ny/boston/toronto information corridor
Bicknellski: just easier for you to get everything cheap I guess
Diablo-D3: because most customers need to have their computers racked in the US
Bicknellski: So why the US?
Diablo-D3: 2) focus on customers that want to do high density computing, renting racks for $20-30k/mo
Bicknellski: I would think it is the best route no?
Diablo-D3: see, the plan was three fold
Diablo-D3: the asics are going to be dropped from the dmc 2.0 plan
Bicknellski: where would you get the asics?
Bicknellski: So the plan for maine?
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Bicknellski: Id like to learn more ... got read 40 pages in that thread
Diablo-D3: I still think the original plan works.
Diablo-D3: I think so.
Bicknellski: Diablo-D3: So lucky then... will you ever do this again?
Diablo-D3: So, basically, in the end, I can pay back what was originally paid out, give or take.
Chaang-Noi: im going to bed, night all
Ukto: when the site does
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DeadWeasel: i hope m t w gets a boost from media attention.
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Ukto: hey Namworld_afk what are the chances of getting a financial update for bvps? I was actually kind of expecting it with the btct listing :/
assbot: The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
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Diablo-D3: Namworld_afk: you there?
Bicknellski: Ya flown planes before it is a lot like that...
Bicknellski: If you think your business plan has to be kept secret because otherwise others will steal it you are probably too stupid to be in business (not just BTC, but in general).
davos: "if you're not afraid you're not paying attention" or something like that.
Bicknellski: nice to know
Bicknellski: so fear is a good friend to have.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's true
davos: but that's how most learning is done anyway
mircea_popescu: "fuck you bitch, i can remain insane longer than you can remain solvent"
mircea_popescu: then again that's what Bugpowder was saying... it takes a slap in the face
davos: well if they're otherwise sane, educated, and experienced they'd probably realize that pretty quickly
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone natively realises just how god damned volatile it is, even if they be otherwise sane and educated/experienced traders whatnot
mircea_popescu: with experience im realising this is the main warning actual people need re mpex.
Bicknellski: beer I can pass up these days drank my fill when I was younger
mircea_popescu: i think i drunk a liter of beer in my entire life
Chaang-Noi: if had to pick only one, the one you could not pick you could not have for the rest of your life.. options are beer or btc, what do you pick?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder just like in the real market amirite ?
mircea_popescu: truth of the matter is, mpex is liquid to the tune of 1-200k btc a month, but volatile to the tune of 1-500% a month too