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mircea_popescu: but it won't. so don't learn from fucking experience.
chetty: bitcoins don't get lost (mostly) just transfered
mircea_popescu: fluffypony making mistakes should be encouraged in a narrow field : that where we don't know what the mistakes are. in the fields where we already know, they should not be.
thestringpuller: you shouldn't make mistakes with other peoples money
fluffypony: but you can't even quantify "stuff you don't know"
mircea_popescu: idiots on the forum also think they know better. the reason they think so is because they don't know what they don't know
chetty: you would listen to a 'teacher' that wasn't worth it?
fluffypony: I don't see any <em> tags?
danielpbarron: bitcoin doesn't get "cracked down on;" it does the cracking
bounce: SSRN, wasn't that a class of antidepressants?
benkay: it has footnotes and stuff that won't survive so well
mjr_: maybe i didn't read that far down
mjr_: which is the same issue...you don't pick a name and then ISO standardizes
mjr_: phones can currently type the bitcoin symbol...i don't even know how you would convince apple or motorola to add a keyboard
fluffypony: just because someone says its dead doesn't automagically make it so
mircea_popescu: fluffypony sure, except we've seen it three times already : the people who are butthurt during upswings because they were left out still don't buy during downswings because now it's more like "Haha! it's dead!"
mircea_popescu: they've painted themselves in a corner, basically. if all you wanna do is buy 20 bucks wortha btc to "have some", no way in fuck do you go through all the caudine forkland of "send us a pic with you holding a seal". odds are you don't even have a phone.
mike_c: i didn't realize what a honeypot mediawiki is.
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah it wasn't working b4 was it ?
benkay`: and you don't have the budget to pay for its production?
nubbins`: if you drop your $500 phone so often that you need to put it in a case, maybe you shouldn't have one
nubbins`: fluffypony, i don't use cases, but tyvm
fluffypony: nubbins`: want a wooden case for it? we have a bunch as gifts, but most of our customers are Android users, and the guy that makes them doesn't make Android cases
nubbins`: i don't
nubbins`: don't h8, m8
benkay: !t h rent
BingoBoingo: !t h neobeeq
nubbins`: almost makes you think he shouldn't have been appointed to the senate in the first place
danielpbarron: fluffypony: i know what you meant; don't do it
danielpbarron: honest individuals don't need money; Big Brother feeds them
danielpbarron: the US kinda sucks; if you aren't here already, don't come
fluffypony: "we must go to all 50 states. Except Alaska. Alaska isn't going to be nice."
dexX7: you don't need to hold everything in memory, but there is a database with all unspent outputs. more outputs = delayed lookup
kanzure: so often this means reindexing the blockchain for nodes that haven't been using -txindex
benkay: so you can't possibly be telling me that a full node needs to hold the whole bc in memory to do its job
kanzure: (don't kill me)
kanzure: to be even more pedantic, counterparty isn't a colored coin implementation
Apocalyptic: but full nodes don't need mempool data for validating blocks
danielpbarron: the issue isn't hard drive space
benkay: either you'll pay for the privilege or you won't.
jurov: i don't mind a terabyte per month,too but 10TB or more... um
benkay: miners don't mine for profit?
danielpbarron: yeah but they don't need the payment; they don't mine for profit anyway
pankkake: for me, bitcoin is terabytes of bandwith per month - I don't mind as it's almost free, but don't make the madness worse
danielpbarron: benkay: you pay, but the payment doesn't go to those actually doing the heavy lifting
danielpbarron: counterparty stores its data in the Blockchain and the devs don't like this
pankkake: but, at least for now, miners don't really care about pool transaction policies
benkay: devs, unles you're talking about conformal, don't really do much other than implement dirty code into bitcoin-qt
danielpbarron: Mats_cd03: I don't mind it costing a lot, but it's insulting to say that using aliminum costs 2 BTC more than using plastic
danielpbarron: otherwise, I don't think I can trust that little thing to make a secure enough seed
fluffypony: "Rap(e)Coin: the rap coin that's not about rape because rape is bad and rap isn't"
pankkake: and don't confuse them with pankkistani bonds
Apocalyptic: "i don't have any idea about wtf i'm doing"
mircea_popescu: yes, but those aren't the people that never woke up with a timer in their life.
mircea_popescu: actually eulorum.org doesn't even load.
mircea_popescu: cazalla the life of the p t barnum promoter of roadside attractions is a precarious one.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how come they still give diplomas to lawyers and journalists that aren't fluent with gpg since their sophomore year, but hey.
mircea_popescu: the whole spectrum seems to reduce to "didn't take it seriously enough"
mircea_popescu: pigeons in a meta-sense, everyone that fucked up so far has been fucked by the same thing : failure to take btc seriously enough. be it the derps that still don't have any, harping about how it's just a fad and quoting tired beanie babies examples,
Diablo-D3: I dunno, after all the years Ive been in the Bitcoin community, I just can't turn my back on everyone
Apocalyptic: maybe if you would write properly it wouldn't have escalated that far
gribble: Error: I haven't seen benkay, I'll let you do the telling.
Mats_cd03: it wouldn't, it would just be mildly cheaper
dub: !t h am1
MisterE: If you didn't already need a reason to DROP Dropbox: http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/09/condoleezza-rice-joins-dropboxs-board/
keonne: i also like nano, keeps it simple, and i don't need extra fucking thumbs
keonne_: people don't know about irc in general
fluffypony: people don't know about /list
[\]: fluffypony, people don't know about /list *bitcoin*
[\]: it wasn't a fucking invite
fluffypony: we don't
cazalla: but how do you know they don't keep a copy of the private key?
fluffypony: cazalla: didn't see any negative reviews
MisterE: then you can't make moves and coin up
fluffypony: and that's why I don't price watch
mikaeldice: I think Ubuntu 14.04 will be the first if you don't want to pull a bleeding edge build for it
mikaeldice: I can't wait for high resolution display support to become more common on desktop distros
nubbins`: dell will uninstall windows and refund you the $25, as long as you don't turn on your new laptop and pay shipping both ways
MisterE: at least you don't have her: http://gawker.com/this-is-the-florida-woman-behind-the-topless-mcdonalds-1561300866
nubbins`: mot much use for a company that doesn't stock blanks :D
nubbins`: also had to sign a contract stating that we won't, among other things, reveal prices nor will we resell undecorated garments
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: three-page application form. we didn't have to fill out the whole thing because we pay up-front with credit cards, but if you want to do net 30 etc, you have to provide business references and a ton of extra info
TestingUnoDosTre: t-shirts are expensive?
benkay: ;;later tell mike_c i guess the appropriate local metaphor would be "for those who prayed, dove through, and magically weren't sliced to bits by the chumpatron"
benkay: tell me that ain't a slide
mike_c: see, i told you it wasn't an input ;)
TestingUnoDosTre: jborkl, what was your point. I didn't understand - what was bugpowder talking about?
jborkl: Benkay is right supply is static, it is demand we don't know about
mike_c: unrelated. plus, who cares. next one isn't for 2 years.
jurov: so i don't have to stick to one client
mod6: couldn't get it configured?
mod6: one thing that i seem to remember that I didn't like (many many moons ago) about xchat is that if you derp-paste a bunch of stuff into the wrong window, it doens't ask you if you're sure you'd like to do spammy paste.
pankkake: if you're a heavy irc user, then irssi certainly isn't a hassle
Duffer1: but i don't irc anywhere other than my desktop anyways though
Azelphur: I still can't believe that just happened
jurov: they are dreaming about rebuilding electrum server on sx, but i don't cross my fingers
mike_c: and it doesn't seem hard to process those yourself, and then see if your code would have done the same thing.
pankkake: so bitcoind isn't used for much except read blocks and push txs
pankkake: shouldn't it be "I invested" instead of "I have invested"?
mircea_popescu: it didn't actually fork tho.