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gribble: Forget
the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :)
ThickAsThieves: just
that i did base my choice on somewhat ignorant grasp of gribbles predictions
jurov: so you bought and now having second
thoughts ? :D
jurov: also sold few shares of iDiff-E on bitfunder for 0.07 hedged by bitbet but won't sell for
that price anymore
mod6: moon and stars, is
that like licking your finger
to determine which way
the wind blows?
ThickAsThieves: were your eyes open or closed when you drew
the lines? ;)
jurov: bu
the moon and stars and
technical analysis
jcpham: he's on
the right path...
mircea_popescu: probably wuile's estimates are
the better
thing
to go by
jurov: in
the end difficulty really only
takes into account really issued blocks, not
the work behind
them... so
the point is moot
mircea_popescu: ya hta'ts what i meant,
they use
the per-user diff
thing
jurov: the pools must have a way
to measure
the work semi-precisely..
to be able
to sanely compute payouts
swhitt: mircea_popescu: well, each pool has a different difficulty for
the shares
mircea_popescu: they could perhaps report shares, but
there's issues with
that
too (i am
told, i don't really understand
this)
mircea_popescu: jurov
there's no practical way for
the pools
to do it either, not as hashes
jurov: if
the pools exported stats about work submitted,
that would be more reliable
swhitt: and
the difficulty adjustment is
to get lambda back
to
the average
time of 10 minutes
ThickAsThieves: so does
the difficulty prediction get more stable
the closer
to
the end of
the current diff level?
swhitt: you can estimate what lambda is by
the number of occurrences per unit
time
jurov: i don't
think bitcoincharts meticulusly gathers stats from
the pools how many hashes got computed actually
pigeons: "he reason I
take
the
time
to
type out a response like
that is because I enjoy
treating people I don’t know like
they’re actual human beings,
take
them seriously and so forth."
mod6: maybe
the asics made it out of
tennekey
ThickAsThieves: i'm missing something, but why would
the hashrate change so much overnight?
jurov: and not difficulty but hashrate
to be exact.
mod6: oh hmm. ok. didn't know
that.
jurov: so gribble was
thinking it will got 15% up
mircea_popescu: jurov i find
that so odd, im still measuring
the output at like 27th
jurov: mod6, it was
the difficulty
that spiked yest
mod6: ThickAsThieves:
the diffiulty went up
that much or just
the btc spot price?
jurov: just a convenient
topic
to bitch about
mod6: one
thing
that makes me laugh is about
these -otc d00dz who constantly bitch about MPEx's lack of CSS or conformity
to standards.
mircea_popescu: mod6 im
the boss all software engineers wish
they had.
mod6: (10:48) < mircea_popescu> i like nat, but
they say i'm a nut. << for someone who isn't a programmer, you have a keen eye for what makes sense in compsci
pigeons: mircea_popescu: nat is like asking someone else
to
take a piss for you
swhitt: the client doens't let you spend unconfirmed change
though
mod6: OH... ok. didn't know
that.
swhitt: mircea_popescu:
thanks, I am making a list of
transactions included in
the attack
swhitt: but
they showed up in a block
maximian: and
that
they implement fixes accordingly
swhitt: it looked like
the doublespend attack person is working with a miner
maximian: evoorhees says
that
they do suffer double-spends from
time
to
time
mod6: I saw something on btctalk about some new ways
to
try
to exploit double-spends against s.dice. not sure if its effective...
swhitt: and
then it paid
the attacked confirmed bet
mircea_popescu: jurov literally. what am i
to answer a phone !? "don't call us, we'll call you
to an artform"
swhitt: which doesn't need
to be signed
swhitt: then a new block came in with a
txn not in
the mempool
jurov: oh, mircea_popescu doesn't need
to answer phones, he's got people for
that
swhitt: I was playing,
this was my original losing bet
swhitt: anyone know how
to contact evoorhees?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> btw, i came up with better analogy with
the NAT problem... it's like
telephone from which you can make outgoing calls only << pretty much
the only way
to use a phone.
mod6: ahh. ok. i was wondering how (or why) a system of credit would need
to be established...
pigeons: well
the new system operaters are
trying
to discourage calling
trust lines "credit" I noticed
mod6: starting
to feel better
today
thouhg.
mod6: ugh, have been sick as hell
the last 2 weeks. :/
mod6: The reason I
take
the
time
to
type out a response like
that is because I enjoy
treating people I don’t know like
they’re actual human beings,
take
them seriously and so forth.
jurov: btw, i came up with better analogy with
the NAT problem... it's like
telephone from which you can make outgoing calls only
jurov: well,everyone has something
to get angry over
jurov: Please include
the vwap used into
the report.
mircea_popescu: iirc what i said was
that i'll publish
the report and
then wait a day for any errors / complaints before making payments
jurov: mircea_popescu, you said maybe you'll do
the report
tomorrow morning instead of in
the night, have you decided?
gribble: BTCUSD
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jurov: the
thread is about mmm glbse stuff
jurov: so,
there are not yet relisted cases n
the scene, ukto beware :D
mod6: car accident and got beat with a
tire iron!?
jurov: In 2009 I was beaten nearly
to death by a man with a
tire Iron and have not been able
to maintain a normal job sence which is why I fell inlove with bitcoins so much
Ukto: I
think were all nuts
Ukto: hes just
too scared
to
talk abou
tit
Ukto: he does supposedly have something
to back it
Ukto: i
told him he needs
to specify stuff
pigeons: what about
the super secret "we can't stop you from buyinf our secret not-for-you shares?"
pigeons: not
that
there's anything wrong with it...
pigeons: well, i guess when mircea_popescu is
the standard, being nuts isn't a disqualifier
Ukto: I am just here
to help
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ya well, one doesn't need five cents
to have an opinion,
kakobrekla: sadly
there are just 2 places in
this whole economy where one can make any serious coin
mircea_popescu: big boys can be bothered
to jump
through all
the hoops
to bribe you
Ukto: and
then make it legal again for
the big boys
Ukto: wipe out
the competition
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> Rather
than
the previous limitation of 'I can SELL it for USD' <<
this is a good point for sure.
gribble: There are currently 5754.009 bitcoins offered at or under 31.99 USD, worth 181961.646777 USD in
total.
Ukto: now
think about
that, with
the big project for BF I am working in. ;)
BitHub: so when you going
to hit up all
the countries
that have a closed exchanged? :P