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Bugpowder: Time
to buy some fresh real estate in downtown Santa Monica
Bugpowder: Well... I don't
think
the fan will be hit
mod6: yeah,
they wanted me
to move
to mountain view
this year. i was like "LOL yeah right..."
Bugpowder: Whelp.... Guess I shouldn't be moving
to LA
mircea_popescu: jurov it will be horrible for many of
the
tense spots. new york, largely boston, most of california
jurov: it's quite long but i
thoroughly enjoyed it
jurov: What happens when a modern economy collapses, and
the complex society it supports disintegrates? A look at a country
that has recently undergone such an experience can be most educational.
mod6: as soon as
they cut off
the SNAP cards.
jurov: and get inspired. some
things will come
to halt, some do not.
lyspooner: mod6, what
timeline do you expect
this
to happen
mod6: until it all comes
to a screeching hault.
mod6: they're so hoplessly dependant upon easy credit and
the system
they'll fight
to defend it.
mod6: and since
this is like
the matrix, anyone who has any wealth left defends
the system.
jurov: not might,
they will do. and even if not, in
the chaos
the'yll have advantage of web of contacts.
mod6: people are waking up
to all of
this (four years later I'll add) but
there is so much disinformation out
there...
think frog in pot
mod6: (11:29) < jurov> mod6, and
the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see
the system as unsustainable,
they'll plan exit routes accordingly << some might.
mod6: now its like people aspire
to work for big bro.
jurov: and
torah was written by winning side anyway
mod6: it used
to be
that you didn't want
to work for government ever, unless you were already rich and "heard
the call of duty"
jurov: hm, last
time such
thing happened with any success was probably when israelites fled egypt
mod6: hmm.. yeah
there are a lot of people who work in goverment here, and its getting larger.
mircea_popescu: be left with half
the population maybe, and a clear point in mind. don't do
that.
mircea_popescu: jurov anyone who ever worked for either
the party or
the state, bang. simple solution.
mod6: yeah, for some reason i
thought
the crime related racket had a different speling.
jurov: better not
think about it
jurov: mircea, and you
think if you started
to shot communists, would
that happen anywhere near accurately and effectively?
mod6: well,
that happens sometimes. im not sure
that we have a lot of lawyers who could successfully prosecute any of
the banksters or government officials who've broken
the law.
mircea_popescu: you couldn't find five people who could actually argue a case atthe
time.
mod6: oh.. yeah.
that doesn't seem like it should make sense. couldn't
the people put a good enough case
together?
mircea_popescu: the judge was prosecuting from
the bench for crying out loud
mod6: yeah, it was def. a kangoroo deal, i do remember
that. I
think
they
typically are after
the revolutionaries
take over.
mod6: i don't remember
the details.. i guess I was only 9.
jurov: mod6, and
the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see
the system as unsustainable,
they'll plan exit routes accordingly
mod6: i remember it on
tv. it was like, quick
trial,
then outback
to
the woodshed.
mircea_popescu: wasn't on
the grounds of being
the wife, was on
the grounds of being pretty much
the #2
jurov: mod6, forget
the president.. here whole secret service
turned into "entrepreneurs"
mod6: *nod* i remember
that.
mod6: you did get
the president and his wife
thought right?
mircea_popescu: which i still say would have been
the correct solution.
mircea_popescu: romanians for instance had a much better shot in 1989, and still we didn't round
them up and shoot
the lot.
mod6: I would
think
that all politics are local, so it just depends on where you're at. But
there will be
two sides.
iz: i'm
thinking of
that static page..
mod6: I guess I hope
that people can come
together and clean house entirely at all levels of government.
mod6: (11:15) < mircea_popescu> mod6 ya but against
the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other. << not sure
this can be avoided any more. people are wholly divided.
iz: what's
that mtgox page
that shows bid ask walls?
mod6: then
the
torches+pitch-forks come out.
mod6: yeah, no one really gives a shit about government until it gets in
the way of feeding yourself and your family.
lyspooner: oh, mircea_popescu, i see you already posted a comment on
that site
jurov: i was reading a good analysis how overthrowing governments happened only after food prices rose out of reach.
there was NO other correlation found
mod6: most people feel helpless against
the in
the face of big bro. so i
think people are just waiting for it
to implode on itself. which it will... but
there will be
twists and
turns in
the road.
mod6: thats
the RATM part.
mod6: but
then
their anger will be directed outward.
mod6: at first
they will blame
themselfs for being
too ingnorant or some such
thing...
mod6: yeah but embarrassed isn't really a problem. it doesnt feel good either way
to have your wealth stripped away by corporations and banksters.
jurov: if
they didn't realize it so far...
they'll be
too embarrassed
to admit it now
mircea_popescu: "Eichengreen's
theory is
that
the US dollar became
the world's go-to currency because of
the emergence of a very specific financial instrument—the banker's acceptance."
mod6: jurov: i hope
that people here will realize
the fleecing
that has happened here and hold
the parties responsible.
jurov: oh you wish
there will be rage.
they invent yet another war,
the more nonsensical,
the better
lyspooner: mircea_popescu: did you see
the moneyness blog article about bitcoin securities?
mod6: people here are beginning
to understand
the depth of debt problems...
they don't understand
the fine points, but
they know
that it can't be good
that
the fedz owe $16tn
mod6: no, state media outlets wont publish any of
these kind of
things... quelling
the masses.
ThickAsThieves: one
thing i dont get is, how can
the irs even pretend
to be able
to verify
tax returns?
mircea_popescu: the fact
that obama is a chicken eating nigger faggot or whatever,
THAT is all over
the news
mircea_popescu: and also doesn't have
the forms ready, so you can't file
mircea_popescu: yeah. for instance, i heard
today
that
the irs a. moved
the start of filling from 15th
to 31th january
mod6: they don't realize quite what is happening
too much disinformation
mod6: they know
they're angry. im not sure
they can put a finger on it yet...
mircea_popescu: mod6 ya but against
the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i like
the part of "buy dollars with bitcoins"
tbh.
ThickAsThieves: pigeons,
the main difference is you can use different words when you
talk about your
transactions now :)
mod6: people here wont put up with
this for forever. eventually when food and gas prices get high enough... RAGE AGAINST
THE MACHINE
mod6: yeah, it seems
to me
that just about NO ONE has any cash
to spare. anyone who works a "regular"
type job anyway...
mircea_popescu: mod6 i dunno, i vaguely recall reading
the avg net worth is
teetering
towards negative.
chmod755: mircea_popescu, errr. except gribble can't spend
the money without nanotube
pigeons: i'm
trying
to understand
the differences between
the exchange on weex and
the bitfunder fiat assets
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah,
this is probably
true.
chmod755: you guys suck...my most recent snack is still
the last botsnack
gribble: Forget
the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :)