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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's in the faq dood. http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
Namworld: what is that supposed to represent?
thestringpuller: how do we get ticker json of mpex?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, inasmuch as it's the statjson of that account.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is there away to get the STATJSON without mpex account?
mircea_popescu: in the case of 310 breakeven is x, in the case of 220 breakeven is y
mircea_popescu: now, working on the 7d averages
mircea_popescu: i imagine you would get a bunch of people going there daily just to check that
Namworld: then average this weighted by the volume of that line << what do you mean by that?
thestringpuller: ^- that would be very useful
mircea_popescu: and publish the final result.
mircea_popescu: then average this weighted by the volume of that line
mircea_popescu: go into the vwap json, calculate the implicit breakeven of each option line
thestringpuller: Does this use black-scholes?
mircea_popescu: something like this :
Namworld: So you can select options with the most return per BTC, based on current asks
Namworld: You can change the price you expect the average to reach and see ROI at execution.
thestringpuller: could you rephrase the above stament?
mircea_popescu: and absent actual experiments (which did NOT occur) the agreement is by definition agreement of idiots.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i think not
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's not how reality works i'm affraid.
Namworld: Seen my update to my options calculator tool, mircea?
thestringpuller: If enough people verify then it's valid.
thestringpuller: That's not for you to decide, one scientist performs and experiment publishes results. Another verifies.
Namworld: I'm the one who make tools around here =/
mircea_popescu: consequently, the headcount of "known and respected" is dismal.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but you do bring an interesting point. in spite of 1mn words being written a week into this channel, there's an incredible dearth of people doing useful stuff, such as, keeping a blog with good quality research.
mircea_popescu: for that matter the owner himself can come out and make monthly statements like everyone else.
mircea_popescu: you wish to propose something exists, you'll have to do a lot better than that.
thestringpuller: with that logic only yourself and smickles are elgible to run the study :P
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's neither here nor there.
thestringpuller: then pay someone to make an estimate otherwise you can't discount them as competition
mircea_popescu: or for that matter, off of Bush's wmd's estimates.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: does that person exist? someone you know and respect? ;)
mircea_popescu: otherwise, we might as well steal the numbers off of RIAA/MPAA's piracy estimates
mircea_popescu: absent a statement from the owner itself, i want to see the estimate of someone i know and respect.
Ukto: Produced br SR themselves.
thestringpuller: oh you want an abstract and a white paper too?
mircea_popescu: some clueless noob calling his farting "a study" is not going to wash in this conversation.
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thestringpuller: 15k-18k btc per day in transaction volume for SR based on 2012 figures
mircea_popescu: im too lazy to dig up the data, but most of 2012 they ran in the red.
Ukto: but not THAT expensive
Ukto: beteen mark, his few employees, the office
thestringpuller: but the feedback is happening less now so most the of the transactions are ghost
Ukto: gox's expendatures are not that high
thestringpuller: you can check the feedback
mircea_popescu: Ukto you seen the sort of expenditure they do ?
Ukto: with all the bs going on
Ukto: although someone told me that there has been alot more guns and ammo lately
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: lemme rephrase silk road is THE top BTC business atm
Ukto: thats including the BTC earnings tho
Ukto: due tot he mass influx of cash
Ukto: the last 30 days they made some 80~100k USD worth
Ukto: mircea_popescu: its not hard to figure out gox's profits
mircea_popescu: they did monthly reporting too for a few months but then gave up
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 they'd be around there, possibly, but haven't had a report out in like 18 months i think
mircea_popescu: fydel well then it may have to wait a little.
Ukto: you have to wait for someone to scrape the data and make one
mircea_popescu: i don't think it would be too hard, just get the parser and run it
fydel: mircea_popescu ok..thank you....so internet site where I can see it in real time?
mircea_popescu: no, sdice made like 60-70k, mpoe made like 20k or so, there's a reason these are the top bitcoin corps.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
Ukto: the totals column
mircea_popescu: i think bugpowder has a copy too, i don't recall where it is on github
Ukto: as of that last post profit was: 67,956.41
mircea_popescu: they just parse all the sdice addresses periodically.
mircea_popescu: Ukto it's not site data, someone wrote a chain traverser
Ukto: oh, is douglas manually producing them based on site data?
mircea_popescu: fydel it comes from dooglus, if you click the link above it you'll see
Ukto: seen it before, not sure where its hosted tho
Ukto: isnt that the sdice graph ?
fydel: hi there! can anyone tell me where the graph in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1552103#msg1552103 comes from ?
Namworld: We wouldn't be able to batch import option passthroughs
Namworld: yeah, that kind of thing just doesn't happen on BTCT.co with voting
Namworld: Both platforms would need more assets and users tho. Not happening currently. No volume.
Diablo-D3: so I guess Im in a mostly good mood today
Ukto: but once I finish this project for BF, I will be knocking out a ton of small stuffs
Ukto: when i get tired of working on it and need a break, i do little things
Ukto: as for notifications, I have a large notifications system partially developed. I am trying to get my big project for BF done though
Namworld: Aye. Well honestly, it's not bad to be split multiple platforms.
Ukto: Just like he's liked some of my stuff. It's all about making things better for the users.
Ukto: I have no shame in admitting that lol
Ukto: Honestly, I do like some of the features of btct, I added some originally with BF. he has had alot of good ideas
Namworld: But since I selected BTCT.co, I feel like I have to get people to use it more.
Namworld: Not that your platform is bad =P
Namworld: I just like the way bids and everything is handled on BTCT.co too
pigeons: only place you can get those 2 sepearate things, a managed mpbor fund, and xdiff passthroughs, is bitfunder, to clarify
mircea_popescu: misread that
pigeons: and the prices aren't pumped by funds multiplied to bid on all the assets
mircea_popescu: how's xdiff related to mpbor ?
Ukto: Namworld: bad selection? how mean. :P Why dont you help out and list a btc-bond or something. And there IS a trade api. just been working to make it nice for everyone. and what 'not as nice features' are you refering to? Might be on the list. :)
assbot: I thought I told you not to touch me.
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4319163.31016 based on data since last change | 4308400.33984 based on data for last three days
kakobrekla: well, what can i say, i trully wouldnt be suprised.
mircea_popescu: advice, shit like that.
kakobrekla: lets see how long that takes
kakobrekla: to get rid of those coins
mircea_popescu: they like guys the wrong ways all teh time
mircea_popescu: girls are weird like that