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error4733: me too 50K
dub: don't forget the $1000 ripples
Bugpowdr: "At this point, bitcoins could go to $0 without any regrets" I seriously doubt that this statement is true.
Bugpowdr: The reddit wankers are getting more pathetic by the day. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/199vvi/bitcoins_and_how_they_changed_my_life/
jurov: doing things over ssh = not working? strange
deadweasel: i'm closing this ssh session. these people want to offer me a permament position, I should pretend to work the last 10 minutes i'm here.
deadweasel: it's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big.
kakobrekla: all good, been a long day which is just about to start really
DeadWeasel: fucking jobs and the money they pay me.
DeadWeasel: nope. i just want to go home.
mod6: 7.62x39 to the ball bag != good day
swhitt: I bet BFL won't ship until the end of march
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.96001, Best ask: 30.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 30.88007, 24 hour volume: 42692.62675683, 24 hour low: 30.11000, 24 hour high: 31.69900, 24 hour vwap: 30.92679
ThickAsThieves: not one asic provider is meeting their projections
jurov: how likely is the diff to go up by 50% around March 14?
jurov: i decided to dampen things in coinbr by asking monthly fee... after several months i can say i did it right
thestringpuller: bitbet is going to grow rather slow
jurov: whatever. i'm used to doing things in this fashion.
jurov: even if i paint him in rosy colors, then they come around trilema blog and MPOE-PR haha
jurov: can't expect any investor in this situation "okay, now tell me more about this mircea popescu" lol
jurov: bootstrapping it completely, has to do things as lean as possible
jurov: i prefer to have frontend and backed physically separated
topace: and they're locked in my own cage at the data center
jurov: i don't have to trust the filthy bitvps machine, that's all
topace: heh you must not trust your own security then :p
jurov: so that neither coinbr's core addy gets known nor successful attack of frontend enable attacker to push stuff onto his account
jurov: and accepting incoming transfers likewise on other direction
jurov: and then in separate step move it out
jurov: maybe i'll have to use extra account for that, move the user's stuff there
jurov: but the thought of supporting automatic transfers to anywhere makes my hair stand up
jurov: if there's only one fixed address involved it's doable
topace: i like residual income, not income i have to work for!
topace: and im always in favour of automating things
topace: just to make sure
topace: the 'automatic' is going to have a final approval button for me to click for the first little while
jurov: if there's a know proprietor, ofc
pigeons: you'll have to sue the proprieotr in his own court if you make an error
jurov: not easy to fix afterwards, you know
jurov: but i'm very wary of any automatic moving of stuff to/from mpex
jurov: anyway i did it only once so far... with your offering this may get requested more and be the impetus do do it better
topace: well, let me get automatic mpex<-->havelock setup first, then lets talk about setting up coinbr<-->havelock :)
jurov: yes if they ask
topace: do users get the receipt?
jurov: coinbr does push completely manually, i can give you the receipt if needed
topace: if coinbr gives you PUSH receipts from mpex, then it would work
topace: not sure about integrating with coinbr, anything is possible though
ThickAsThieves: but thats only beneficial for YOU ;)
topace: ^ there, i actually LOST bitcoins doing that arbigrage, just to move another 5000 shares to havelock
ThickAsThieves: would this be something that could be integrated with coinbr
topace: yea, im amazed at the demand for sdice on havelock
ThickAsThieves: several us have had urges to cream into your bids for sdice in recent weeks
topace: but im not here 24/7, and often when the good arbitrage opportunities come up, you have to act quickly
topace: yea.. i'd do that for havelock users too, if im around
ThickAsThieves: buying on mpex for me and pushing to BF
ThickAsThieves: ah, thats what I was referring to with deadterra
topace: or, had someone with an mpex account willing to purchase/push on you rbehalf (others here have made that offer to people before i've seen)
ThickAsThieves: i need to just get an mpex account already
ThickAsThieves: but this would only be for people who have an mpex account right
topace: instead of having to manually process push requests
topace: thus, why i want to setup this automatic push system
topace: but the more liquid the better, so if its easier for others to do the arbitrage as well, im all for that
topace: just to get more units onto havelock
topace: i move things at break-even often, so no profit from the arbitrage at all
topace: ThickAsThieves: i dont mind hogging all the arbitrage at all, but its kind of a conflict of interest since i run the site... if my goal is simply arbitrage at least... which it hasnt been since we launched.. my goal has been to grow the sdice holdings on havelock, and the only way to do that is to buy on mpex and sell the units on havelcok, so the arbitrage is a added side-benifit to me.
topace: and we allow users to push existing holdings from mpex to havelock, or from havelock back to mpex
topace: ThickAsThieves: yea havelock launched teh SDICE passthru beginning of January
ThickAsThieves: why wouldn't you just hog all the arbitrage if you have the ability?
ThickAsThieves: but to be fair, I didn't know anyone did it til Deadterra
ThickAsThieves: so i used other exchanges in the past
ThickAsThieves: top, i didnt know you did that
mod6: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
mod6: topace: yeah, seems like it would be some good arbitrage oppertunities -- im sure with this automated demand would pick up over time.
topace: but for the naysayers that think im "hogging all the arbitrage" as i add more units to havelock.. it'll satisfy them at least (give them the opportunity to do the same arbitrage)
topace: not sure how much demand there would be... its possible now, for free, just manaually processed, and nobody has taken advantage of it yet
mod6: this seems like it could work pretty good with some testing
topace: its just checking the values from the returned array (esp the "validity" field) that i need to be 100% sure about
topace: unless the function itself completely fails for some reason
mod6: If verification fails, the gnupg_verify() returns the key's id instead of fingerprint . It does not return FALSE as stated above (PHP4, have not tested PHP5). You can compare it with result of keyinfo:
mod6: i'd be nice to know what {1,2,3,4...} are for! lol
mod6: back to the first statement: On success, this function returns information about the signature. On failure, this function returns FALSE.
mod6: its shitty when neat-o libraries don't define their return statements, nor can they be correlated to a given spec.
mod6: yeah it seems like it could work out decent. doing it manually in tandom for a while would be good to ensure that the correct values get to the correct accounts, etc.
topace: but from my understanding, it should work just fine, i ran it by mp too and he seemed to think it should work well
topace: when i launch it, it'll go through a manual approval step for the first little while, just to make sure :)
mod6: yeah, seems like if you could know for certain about 1-6 it could work pretty good. could reek havoc though if there was any problems.
topace: as long as one can trust and properly interpret the result from gnupg_verify()
mod6: yeah, this could get hairy dude.
topace: //6 that the quantity if what was pushed is ok
topace: //5 that we recognize what was pushed
topace: //4 that its a push receipt to havelock account
topace: //3 that its a receipt we have not processed already
topace: //2 that its actually from mpex (fingerprint?)
mod6: ok... so with the receipt you just parse that on the remote end and use that to verify.
topace: then paste the push receipt into the havelock website, which would verify 6 things:
topace: yes, you would push it from your mpex account to the havelock mpex account
mod6: i would think that i'd have to be different to discern who person A is on the remote system and just dump the 1 XYZ in there, while keeping the 1 XYZ in holdings on MPEx
mod6: i don't know how one does that. In my mind, person A owns 1 share of XYZ and he can push to another key on the MPEx keyring (weather it exists on the keyring or not) ... but how does one push this to a remote keyring?
mod6: i remember you saying this before.
topace: im making a way to automatically push assets from MPEX to Havelock, simply by pasting in a PUSH receipt
topace: thats what i'd like to really be sure of.. not really something i can ASSUME