960800+ entries in 0.713s
topace_: because it can be
there or not and it still validates
topace_: so i'd also have
to
trim off
the = before
the =4chr
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mircea_popescu: (the = char may not be part of
the signature cause it's not in
the base64 list)
topace_: but how can you be sure you've reached
the checksum?
topace_: but if
there's no way of knowing how long
the signature is expected
to be, and it allows adding crap at
the end, again, how do i know where
to stop reading
the characters of
the 'actual' signature
mircea_popescu: within
the signature block, a =j61e
type string is
the end (cause it's
the checksum)
topace_: yea it definitely needs a blank line after
the BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE line
topace_: so if
there can be crap after
the end, how do i know where
to stop reading characters
that are actually part of
the signature
mircea_popescu: put it on
the same line with -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
mircea_popescu: the gpg parser mostly ignores spaces/newlines/etc EXCEPT it wants a newline after
the begin sig
tag
topace_: so how can i reliably filter out just
the signature? if
there's no logical separator?
topace_: does
the = at
the end of
the sig (before
the checksum) designate
the end of
the signature?
mircea_popescu: the structure of a gpg signed message is,
there's a header (begin blabla, comment whatever),
then a message,
then a signature ehader,
then
the signature
topace_: hmm nope, i can concatenate
the
two lines into one and it validates.. i can combine all 3 lines onto one, and it validates
too...
topace_: ahh, so I should only be considering
the 2 lines of
the signature hash?
mircea_popescu: if more shit is added at
the end
that doesn't actually matter.
mircea_popescu: if
the checksum is broken it doesn't actually validate
mircea_popescu: the last line is always a =xyzk 4 characters checksum of
the foregoing
topace_: i can actually add anything concatenated
to
the end
topace_: if i add a 1
to
teh end of it, it still validates
topace_: is
the signature on
this receipt
topace_: and if i
try
to just grab
the actual signature hash,
that can still be changed adn still validate
topace_: i can change
that line on
the receipt and it still validates
topace_: i cant just hash
the receipt
to get a unique id because
then doing something as simple as changing
the comment in
th e sig would change
the hash and stilll validate
topace_: hey mircea_popescu you
there? still working on
this auto-push-receipt processing...
Eduard_Munteanu: Not
the end of
the year, or
the month or anything. Immediately.
Eduard_Munteanu: The interesting
thing is stock brokers here retain
the
tax as soon as you sell.
Namworld: They might not but
that's supposed
to be declared.
Bowjob: and wont have
to work for
the whole year
Namworld: Laws & regulations vary by country/state
tho
Namworld: It's like when you have income. You pay your
taxes,
then let's say you buy stocks. If
they raise in value, you don't pay
taxes on
that until you sell, at which point
the price difference becomes capital gains.
Namworld: If your BTC has appreciated in value, I
think you don't need
to declare
that value increase until you sell
them. So yes. But speak
to an accountant.
Bowjob: but i have enough BTC worth hundreds of
thousands of dollars
Bowjob: so i wont have
to pay income
tas
Bowjob: i just cash in enough BTC
to hit
the limit of a poor person
Bowjob: mhm.. i wonder if
this is allowed
aiball: Bugpowder I agree, Like Butch and Sundance didn't need
to keep watch until
they had
the payroll
Chaang-Noi: $1000 should be in 3 years or maybe more, lots of
time
Bugpowdr: If you want BTC
to hit $1000,
there are some
things
that are gonna have
to happen first
Bugpowdr: unless
they really are
treating BTC as a foreign currency
that is
to be market
to market at year end
Bowjob: if BTC gets high enough,
the govt might actually dig
through 100 dollar buys
BitHub: we're
talking about
taxes here
Bugpowdr: will be
the first
to be examined
BitHub: they'll be
the first
to get slaughted
Bugpowdr: who knows, maybe
they will do a good job
aiball: so, my mtgox purchase 6 months ago is on
the IRS books now?
Bugpowdr: The cash for
that buy was proablbly already in
there
Bowjob: .. i wont ever
touch coinlab with a
ten foot pole
BitHub: bring wallstreet
to bitcoin
Bowjob: will bring customers closer
to IRS
Bowjob: could it be
the buy was a panic buy
aiball: is
the s.dice dividend still 14K?
Chaang-Noi: mircea_popescu i did pay
that out in full
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi you never sold what exactly ? whatever was left after paying out for
the
TYGRR.BOND (100% Insured Pirate Bonds)
Bowjob: ill ride
this horse wherever it
takes me
kakobrekla: and if everybody does
that, few years from now not a single node will be runing
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i wonder if people knew about
that and
they bought it all up
Bugpowdr: people understand what easier US market access will do
to
the price.
Bugpowdr: Let's just get up
to 50 so I can forget about
this
troubled
time in my life.
Bugpowdr: The buy must have been
triggered by
the are
technia article
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ticker | Best bid: 32.60001, Best ask: 32.60490, Bid-ask spread: 0.00489, Last
trade: 32.60490, 24 hour volume: 80058.57461354, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.92017
Bowjob: yet i jumped on
the avalon bandwagon
Bowjob: i have a confession.. i actually dont know how
to mine bitcoins
Bugpowdr: it hit 31.40
taking out 15,000 BTC on
the way
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Bugpowdr: he is selling half ounces at 1.3BTC
though, much cheaper
than anywhere else.
Bugpowdr: I
think we are going
to 50 now
Namworld: It's
the same but loads faster.
Chaang-Noi: mtgoxlive.com fails for me, is
there a better site like it?
Namworld: I saw
the walls form regular steps or changing place all
the
time