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jcpham: i hope coinlab succeeds though
Bugpowder: the title
jcpham: coinlab is pissing me off for changing their business model and delaying things
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you mean in the article ?
pigeons: "Mt. Gox really wants to be 100% out of the US/Canada market."
pigeons: some telling info on the faqs at http://coinlab.com/transition
pigeons: well its been true. exchb was a good example.
ThickAsThieves: i dunno dont you think gox is probably shedding 80% of the work for .2% of the profit?
mircea_popescu: pigeons the sad news in all of this is mtgox basically saying "the us market is not worth serving"
pigeons: mtgox has quite low margins anyway and coinlab has a reputation at not understanding how to make money
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it ever will be the case that total blocks mined by asicminer > total posts made in asicminer thread.
ThickAsThieves: it only takes a few million in attention
mircea_popescu: in other news, asicminer thread over 100 pages.
ThickAsThieves: i think theyll do it
mircea_popescu: all they need now is the rabbit out of a hat and they'll survive.
mircea_popescu: which all boils down to jcpham being basically right :
mircea_popescu: course, fixing it in their usual dodderingway, but at least the attempt is there.
mircea_popescu: well, i appreciate at tleast the part where they read up on what they fucked up and try to fix it
jcpham: if coinlab doesn't pull a rabbit out of their hat, i predict they are over
pigeons: nOgAnOo: that makes no sense
pigeons: and in a horrible country for financial transactions!
ThickAsThieves: because if they did, everyone would know that gox basically raped CoinLab investors for a chance to make bitcoin available to dummies
nOgAnOo: Cheaper transactions
nOgAnOo: Easier for corporations to buy mass amounts of bitcoins
mircea_popescu: pigeons yes but then again they never don't and usually don't even know what anything means.
jcpham: 2 thumbs down
ThickAsThieves: so they are watching
mircea_popescu: "Liquidity requires symmetric information, which is easiest to achieve when everyone is ignorant. This determines the design of many securities, including the design of debt and securitization"
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu the btc Fed chair
nOgAnOo: Was trying to help.
nOgAnOo: Sorry I'm 24 hours late on the news post
nOgAnOo: I just rejoined bitcoin today
mircea_popescu: lol as a result of the discussions here, mtgox came out with a forum post in support of coinbase.
thestringpuller: i need to talk witchoo
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.66888, Best ask: 33.88997, Bid-ask spread: 0.22109, Last trade: 33.66888, 24 hour volume: 95511.46006840, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.89000, 24 hour vwap: 32.39862
mod6: i remember watching that on tv like omg SHE BANGS! this kid is on turbo mode.
mircea_popescu: i remember teenybopers were crazy about it not so long ago.
mod6: haha, here's the original vid quite the laugh: http://youtu.be/0d5eP0wWLQY
mircea_popescu: what do you know, retardopedia has a 5000 word entry on the topic.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.60110, Best ask: 33.60111, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 33.60111, 24 hour volume: 94092.99709452, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 33.83941, 24 hour vwap: 32.37123
jurov: hm, i milked goats late in summer myself... and i know they give milk for whole year
mircea_popescu: ungulates only produce milk if they're pregnant you know.
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kakobrekla: no point in waisting that.
kakobrekla: but yeah, get the milk first
kakobrekla: i thought we sacrifice them
jurov: we milk them!
jurov: what we do with goats when they wake up?
kakobrekla: well i was trying to be funny
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.10207, Best ask: 32.26999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16792, Last trade: 32.26999, 24 hour volume: 83302.39912401, 24 hour low: 30.79010, 24 hour high: 33.20000, 24 hour vwap: 31.96821
jurov: we'll see when americans "wake up to" it
jurov: but then, 23.73 seems too low
jurov: in the parentheses are next month/this month?
jurov: yup it used the graph as thumbnail
jurov: ^ i meant this
jurov: let the trolls descend http://trilema.com/2013/introducing-the-oix/
mircea_popescu: Chips almost bumped, shipping on week of 4 - or 11 at the latest
mircea_popescu: but srsly, i envisage this being used as a replacement for satoshi dice random number generator
mircea_popescu: teh end of the werlds
jurov: i stand corrected. i can now imagine the hysteria on #assets "crash!! oix down 0.5 satoshi!!"
kakobrekla: yeah that is ridiculus.
jurov: hate to nitpick, but 10 decimal places? two are sufficient for such index
kakobrekla: aha so its you, mircea and me, the three fucked yuropean
kakobrekla: jurov are you already or still up this morning
jurov: And placing the exchange's funds within US jurisdiction will make it harder for the firm to disappear with customers' cash.
jurov: ars managed to put a foot into their mouth as well
jurov: maybe after a while i get so confused so i'll mention coinbr along with them it and havoc ensues :D
mircea_popescu: looking into this
jurov: i did it awhile after that
jurov: <jurov> [21:52:28 CET] what do you think about bet: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by June ?
mircea_popescu: what time did you put it in ?
jurov: ^ that
jurov: bet will resolve as YEs when coinlab.com will be unavailable through 7 days straight, too.
jurov: i'll try to reconstruct it from memory: CoinLab will close or cease bitcoin payments by end of this year
ThickAsThieves: sounds pretty good too, if you like jimi
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that looks ready for delivery
topace_: nope.. just the fingerprint
mircea_popescu: i think it returns the sig digest too
topace_: oo actually gnupg_verify() will return the plaintext portion of hte message for me (but not the signature portion)
mircea_popescu: (one after begin message tag, one after begin signature tag) and non-base64 chars you should be ok.
mircea_popescu: as long as you wipe the comment lines
topace_: okay excellent, i think that gives me enough to get this implemented tomorrow.. bedtime now! thanks for your help!
topace_: becuase one stray \n would cause a different digest for the same receipt
mircea_popescu: if you sign the same thing multiple times the sig will be different yes
topace_: if i was going to do a digest of the whole message, i'd have to do it based on a post-processed data (removing the comments and the blank lines, etc)
topace_: if you sign the same thing multiple times, the signature will always be different though, right?
jurov: interesting, this signature stuff
mircea_popescu: tho i'd imagine a whole message digest works too
mircea_popescu: well, i guess you can use the signature only.
topace_: then i should still take a hash of the signature, and use the hash as my unique identifier?
topace_: on the push receipt im using as a sample at least
mircea_popescu: is mpex signature seriously that short ?!
topace_: yea.. okay that makes sense..
mircea_popescu: 5. you look for an = and wipe everything from that point forward (including it)
mircea_popescu: 4. you wipe the first line after it no matter what it contains, and as many empty lines only after that
mircea_popescu: 3. you look for the -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- tag.
mircea_popescu: 2. you wipe the first line after it no matter what it contains, and as many empty lines only after that
mircea_popescu: 1. you look for -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----. if not found, kill the task. if found :
topace_: then using that as my unique identifier to ensure i never double-process the same receipt?
mircea_popescu: =*\w{4} would be the regex