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mircea_popescu: other
than
this, "infinite" is not required. just a large enough factor, but 9 digits are far from "infinity"
mircea_popescu: it is not. consider -- i can (even
thouigh ben_vulpes apparently can't) spin up endless instances of whatever boxen, notwithstanding "such a
thing as
the self-packing os was posed by neumann and stays where it was posed" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: there's 0 utility
to 99% of
the us population, in economic
terms.
there's ~maybe~ some sexual utility in 9%. but 90% can be ablated
today and without adverse effects.
mircea_popescu: robotization is a fact ; modern factories don't need workers ; and
the robots are not made by fucking hand, no.
mircea_popescu: dude i couldn't care less what chinese are
trying
to emulate white man working economy on.
mircea_popescu: some of
the
things
that don't work don't work because no you/joe, and some don't work because IN SPITE of you-joe
there werealso some orcs involved.
mircea_popescu: no item
that works, now or ever, was produced
through ANY OTHER MEANS
than
the you-joe method discussed above. not EVER.
mircea_popescu: how does
this work ? is your code written by chickens,
too ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, if you
think
the robots are maintained by orcs...
mircea_popescu: no, you do it with machinery, as everything everywhere.
that's what "modern" means,
that
the per-capita productivity is not actually finite.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 06:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: have
to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a
tentacle of
the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached
to
the rest of you << so very aptly put.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, what fducking own hands, are you kidding me ?! NO ORC
TODAY WORKS!!!! you understand
thids ?!
mircea_popescu: the
trashing
the orclands get at our hands every fucking
time we deign
to rape
them is not enough model of how
this'd go ? joe from
two states down will just send you some free molybdenum because fuck
those orcs, and besides, you gave him a painting last year
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck would you even need a price, you're friends.
mircea_popescu: sure, you don't.
the reason you don't is cuz you didn't put one in. nothing else.
mircea_popescu: same
thing you say, can and is said by
today's neet. "i don't have microscope in house lel"
mircea_popescu: today it's fucking
trivial, wtf, make planes, what's
to keep you.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: see,
that's
the meaning of stalin-couldn't, by 80s, feasible.
mircea_popescu: we're simply
talking of killing most everyone, and using
the space like people rather
than like rats.
mircea_popescu: does
this arrangement, with your private cheese cellar etc, connote some kind of
techno-weakness on your part ?
mircea_popescu: same girl
that made
the bread now, makes
the bread
then.
mircea_popescu: instead of you having
to contend with 5mn other idiots
trying
to live in
the same state ; you have
to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for
the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i
think you misunderstood
the "let's hunt".
mircea_popescu: that "person in charge" doesn't know
this, speaks as
to
the incredible decay of explicit understanding -- by
the
time you lack
the words and preformed expressions
to describe necessity you've fallen into pre-literate
times ; unequal
to herodotus.
mircea_popescu: whether you go "everyone
takes exam, bottom 10% get hung by
those poles in schoolyard" or you go "nobody has
to do anything and i can't explain all
this cutting and anorexia", it makes entirely no difference.
mircea_popescu: understand, antrhiopology is not optional,
this isn't some kind of elective course. in year X, Y must be done. "not doing it" isn't meaningful -- Y' will still be done, with shitty results.
mircea_popescu: yes. girlies are doing
their job, society is failing
them.
mircea_popescu: understand, such a
thing as
teenage female suicide is not known in classical works. it only appears once
the need for
the pressure
to perform appears, at high enough
tech densities.
mircea_popescu: because ro kids did -- various hung selves 18yo females can attest. and it is
the ~only reason romania is ever mentioned by name
this century.
mircea_popescu: when's
the last
time a bearer of us passport confronted a "be
this
tall or die" dilemma ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, because
they're not at ALL serious about "clever".
mircea_popescu: yes it is. but
the argument presented is specious in either reading --
there's no "neighbours overrun", and if
there is --
the proposed measures did nothing about it.
mircea_popescu: but populace eminently is not
the criteria, which is why
the "totally not a dating site" "community" of fetlife can't stand up
to... me.
mircea_popescu: if populace was
the criteria, should have applied for admission as chinese ssr in 1972.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you are sitting
there seriously proposing
to me
that a man-and-his-bushels uranium mining op is more productive
than a mechanized item ?
mircea_popescu: he didn't live in a world where
this was possible. but by 1980 -- eminently doable.
mircea_popescu: the ~punishment~ for ~failure~
to perform exceptionally well would have been a one way
ticket
to jeansland.
mircea_popescu: anyway --- if i ran
the moscow polytechnic,
the advertisement would have been "either make it in
the 1% or else we will paradop you in america, or whatever other african shithole you belong
to".
mircea_popescu: i just see it as wankers,
the sort
that could participate but doesn't.
mircea_popescu: and you're
thinking of
the wrong side of
this. nevermind -1 hruschev.
think -1 yuri derpopovich herpopov. all 50 mn of
them. not "prevent emigration", but dump at sea ~everyone.
mircea_popescu: and kinda why
they're stuck with
the "legitimacy" mechanism, "gadaffi is not
the legitimate owner of syria"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, kinda why we have
the negrate mechanism. cheap and effectual, better
than any kalash.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform,
this understanding nevertheless does NOT relieve
the soviet brass from having had
to and having failed
to either a) produce something alternatative for
them
to sing or b) shoot
them all, a la maduro.
mircea_popescu: anyway. so
the rate
that'd have allowed soviet industry a positive epsilon return on capital goods was cca 10-20:1 in 1992 (depending how and what you sort) and
the "tourist rate" was 60:1. bingo.
mircea_popescu: of course it is. much like anyone with head out of ass sees apple as apple. wtf would
they have seen it as.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, same processes were supposed
to work
the same way ; and most of
the peripheral agents not in
the "need
to know" bubble are even
to
thsi day claiming
they worked as supposed.
mircea_popescu: the only unexpected element is
the discovery
that
the population of fucktards ~wasn't actually relevant~ for
the republic.
mircea_popescu: now,
the "creation" of "ethereum" is entirely out of
the playbook of clinton "bringing rock'n'roll dollars
to moscow" or mp bringing dollars
to buenos aires etc.
mircea_popescu: the people involved weren't ~stupid~, see. notwithstanding what
the officious jews "all agreed".
mircea_popescu: i said before
that
the principal question of
the 80s was "da-i romaneasca ?" ie, "but is it made here ?".
this'd be why.
mircea_popescu: this is called "inefficiency", but it's not industrial inefficiency, it's socially-mediated pseudo-inefficiency created by
the Ps deliberately (if "unknowingly") choking out I because
they;'ve decided
they want
their country dead.