log☇︎
960400+ entries in 0.553s
mircea_popescu: i don't own a mircea_popescu account on icbit.se either, since we're talking
grubles: he is asking if mircea_popescu owned the mircea_popescu account on glbse
Ukto: is that a question?
mircea_popescu: this can just be a pastebin if it comes to it
mircea_popescu: the catastrophic failure mode is for each issuer to get a gpg-encypted list of the holder's fingerprints. much like rg got on the delisting of s.bvps
Ukto: are they constantly backed up offsite out of your control ?
mircea_popescu: but even if that's not the case : the trade history is public,
burnside: newest receipt wins I think
mircea_popescu: Ukto in principle there'd be at the very least a decoded db dump
Ukto: no different than glbse
mircea_popescu: that said, there's no doubt in my mind the proper qtys were actually beingheld for me.
jurov: mircea_popescu: f.giga.etf held the underlying asset at time of glbse closing [ ] Yes [ ] No
thestringpuller: blackmailed them into submitting OFAC requests
mircea_popescu: not now that it became clear bfl isn't delivering
mircea_popescu: the time for this sort of putative implication was last year,
mircea_popescu: no. at this point it's an issue between some idiot who thinks he can deflect attention from his misdealings by starting shit with me and the world.
Ukto: at this point
Diablo-D3: the passthrough owner is on the hook for it, not giga or nefari
Diablo-D3: whoever issued the passthrough
Ukto: and then the etf holders can deal with nefario
Ukto: let nefario make the statement weather the shares existed or noit
Ukto: mircea_popescu: can you provide the btc address/email address used for glbse
Ukto: how about this
thestringpuller: it became illiquid too
mod6: bah. this is old news giga
mod6: what would be the point?
mod6: well why would he want to deal with that nitwit anyway?
gribble: You rated user gigavps on Fri Aug 17 15:27:07 2012, giving him a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: Excellent trust.
Ukto: i suppose that works :P
mod6: que up the retaliation ratings
burnside: cool, just wanted to make sure it was the one true giga
Ukto: because it comes down to your word vs GLBSE & Issuer's word
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.03000, Best ask: 33.29995, Bid-ask spread: 0.26995, Last trade: 33.01234, 24 hour volume: 123154.64224059, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.59041
Ukto: i think the biggest issue regardless
mircea_popescu: simple thing to understand.
mircea_popescu: but if they start being uppity, they'll get bitchslapped.
burnside: is giga's nick registered? how do you check that?
Ukto: heh, I just want to solve the issue before it become some crazy drama
kakobrekla: i dont see how giga doing smth potentially wrong could be related to mp doing smth potentially wrong
mircea_popescu: Ukto at the very minimum trying to get this false theory accepted whereby people actually claimed.
Ukto: all the other giga share holoders I know who claimed got theirs
jborkl: Giga, did you even have the hash power to back up your dividend payout?? I seem to remember not
mircea_popescu: ;;rate gigavps -10 Defrauded direct investors of something like 40k BTC. Lied about pretty much everything, changed his contract. Also one of the main pirate ponzi supporters.
Diablo-D3: Ukto: yeah, I think Im the only one that got that level of treatment
Ukto: and honestly, i dont see what reason gigavps has to lie about it. other than just wanting to bully and pick on you to keep your shares?
mircea_popescu: you've fucked over your investors, talking about my contracts ?
Ukto: eh.. honestly, nefario has made some shit decisions, we all agree with that
mircea_popescu: you are insolvent talking about ice under me !?
mircea_popescu: lalala. has no reason to lie indeed.
mircea_popescu: end result ? nefario explains the idiots present how much of a scam mpex is.
mircea_popescu: Sep 16 01:13:36 <nefario> mircea_popescu: would you like me to mention you or mpex?
gigavps: a word of waring to all, mircea_popescu doesn't live up to his own contracts
Ukto: shouldnt be hard to get proof otherwise
Ukto: hey, I am just trying to help
mircea_popescu: Ukto i can dig up the logs for some accurate info he gave, if you're interested.
Ukto: he has no reason to lie
Ukto: heh yes, the person who has been giving out accurate information
Diablo-D3: they switched to zepto.js for their js (although to be fair, none of their js was REQUIRED to be used, it was purely optional)
mircea_popescu: Ukto nefario, the scammertagged chav from bitcointalk you mean ?
mircea_popescu: maybe they were listening
Diablo-D3: they fixed basically every single thing I bitched about
Ukto: lets send an open email to james/nefario asking him to confirm MP's claim
gigavps: mircea_popescu the ice you are standing on is cracking
mircea_popescu: lambert at least is trying.
mircea_popescu: so, find something better to do with your time. like, say, a way to pay back.
Ukto: alright, there is obviously only one easy way to settle this
mircea_popescu: not getting into the details of pushing pirate, pushing amazingrando, pushing all the other scams.
mod6: we've been over all this like 69x
mircea_popescu: which is nowhere to be see.
Ukto: hmm, this is a pretty serious accusation
mircea_popescu: gigavps here's the thing : this sort of fake drama x months late won't save you from the fact that you've taken about 40k worth of investor's btc
gigavps: so it would seem that your position is weakening
gigavps: mircea_popescu, every person that own over 900 contracts has claimed and been paid
Diablo-D3: yeah, but now the shares are worthless
Ukto: mircea_popescu: did you not actually own giga shares to back it? x.x
mircea_popescu: because it's a loaded question, and a poorly loaded one at that.
gigavps: mircea_popescu that would go against your giga.etf contract, would it not?
Ukto: I think I just saw a bomb get dropped
Ukto: just give the bots an hour or two to resituate
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i see it down to 31
ThickAsThieves: Ukto, shoudlnt you be working on The Next Big Thing tm?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.00000, Best ask: 32.01371, Bid-ask spread: 0.01371, Last trade: 32.00000, 24 hour volume: 121637.16767579, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.58503
Bugpowder: or the bots just are in wait in see mode
Bugpowder: weird that its not filling at all really
nOgAnOo: I noticed that.
nOgAnOo: The 7000 bitcoin is right next to the 1 bitcoin
mircea_popescu: no , that can only happen on places where people actually have a lot of wealth
mod6: haha, "what's this do..."
Bugpowder: maybe someone hit the sell $500k button on coinlab
ThickAsThieves: probly from delayed tickers on Coinlab and goxlive and such
mircea_popescu: we are living interesting times
mircea_popescu: that's nice. twitter and trilema in that order.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 32.93294, Best ask: 33.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06706, Last trade: 33.00000, 24 hour volume: 120954.92202604, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.58998
jurov: my god. so the discussion on #bitcoin-dev turned to proposals to round the outputs or add bitdust to them... just to spite mpex, perhaps
Diablo-D3: its the end result of a 20 year military project
Diablo-D3: but the military HAS been experiementing with that shit for years
mircea_popescu: i'd totally get a set for the girls.
mircea_popescu: is this mature ?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.17109, Best ask: 34.40710, Bid-ask spread: 0.23601, Last trade: 34.40736, 24 hour volume: 102949.56666322, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.67158
Diablo-D3: yes, this qualifies as magic