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mircea_popescu: im lucky. i think i have a reputation for an asshole, so most fragile minds avoid me or something.
kakobrekla: im le tierd from those kind of conversations.
kakobrekla: prolly built the site firt then come to -ot
kakobrekla: 22:46.37 ( allex ) Got the idea?
kakobrekla: 22:46.13 ( allex ) There is groups os paypal, nettler , poker , cash , western union
kakobrekla: 22:45.32 ( allex ) the focus is on exchange of bitcoins only nothing else
kakobrekla: 22:45.02 ( allex ) by rating the trades
kakobrekla: 22:44.47 ( allex ) to build trust
kakobrekla: 22:44.14 ( allex ) The idea is to build a comunity of trders
mircea_popescu: and imo they're so far ahead of anyone in their field it's rare.
mircea_popescu: jurov i use nc too.
mjr_: but still, why does everyone use them, when it is known that they suck
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well... wait till he finds about localbitcoins or w/e its called
mjr_: they are the worst
mircea_popescu: mjr_ that may be, but they suck at the actual soup.
mjr_: i have to say that godaddy's superbowl commercial and subsequent ad campaign was probably the most successful campaign of any internet company
ThickAsThieves: was like yo axe that shit
kakobrekla: 22:43.47 ( kakobrekla ) how is it better than irc and -otc wot allex
kakobrekla: 22:41.15 ( allex ) there is no midle man (as it were) involved. Only p2p
kakobrekla: 22:39.39 ( kakobrekla ) what scam is this now
kakobrekla: 22:38.01 ( allex ) the name of the site is
kakobrekla: 22:37.43 ( allex ) I need some traders to join my p2p bitcoin exchange site
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu you just closed -eu 1 min too soon
mircea_popescu: TIL that most ycombinator ventures use godaddy as a registrar.
mircea_popescu: dude i love blogging. there's all these people making comments.
Lyspooner: mircea_popescu: i just wanted to make fun of romania
ThickAsThieves: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/28/girls-gone-wild-bankruptcy/1954419/ 'Girls Gone Wild' goes bankrupt to dodge legal awards
mjr_: mircea_popescu that is true
mircea_popescu: it'd take an army of slaves doing it, but it'd be done just fine.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner literally the stuff involved in bitcoin could be done pen on paper
Lyspooner: "what happens to bitcoin if the internet stops working?"... apparently if we look at romania where there still is no internet, there is at least one node, and that node becomes very wealthy
Lyspooner: A Palmer too! No wonder why
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.27001, Best ask: 33.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05999, Last trade: 33.33000, 24 hour volume: 125332.84318558, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.61138
Ukto: back to business as usual then. :)
Ukto: I was just trying to be helpfull and make sure you got a clear name and everyone knew that giga was wrong
mircea_popescu: you don't get to spy on people just by manufacturing some concern trollage.
mircea_popescu: but this is a forewarning of things to come : i don't care what people manouver,
Ukto: its still best to show good faith in that respect
Ukto: and while they should continue to
mircea_popescu: and if im the only one here, that's great, i don't care.
mircea_popescu: Ukto i happen to respect anonimity.
Ukto: i just think its sad that you wont clear your name if its that easy :(
mircea_popescu: once his cratered asset is worth something, the people holding it on mpex might be able to recover something
mircea_popescu: issuer can claim w/e the fuck he pleases.
Ukto: well, the issuer is claiming the shares didnt exist
Ukto: leaves the basic question again, can we hav this third party simply verify things?
Ukto: wondering what the commentary is for then
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying anything of the sort.
Ukto: and that this person is a licensed stock broker?
Ukto: so your saying, that you used a 3rd party to buy the shares, and this person cannot be revealed?
mircea_popescu: for many people being involved in these things is professionally iffy
mircea_popescu: Ukto the problem is people work in bitcoin because they want to be anon.
Ukto: can we get the third party to vrify your shares?
Ukto: then that makes things simple
Ukto: MP is the OP for the etf asset, right?
Ukto: but in your contract you didnt disclose that you held the shares via third party, right?
grubles: so there mustve been an imposter on glbse with mircea_popescu 's name?
mircea_popescu: Ukto i use brokers. i happen to think it's the correct way to do it.
grubles: he said he 'didnt have an account to claim'
mircea_popescu: but all this is not here nor there, and certainly has no point in our discussion.
mircea_popescu: just as he's welcome to appologise to other people for involving them in the other many messes he's created since his presence in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: not that it'd make a difference,
mircea_popescu: he is welcome to appologise to me at any time for being an idiot and involving himself in this mess,
mircea_popescu: this state of affairs does NOT give some confused individual license to come in here and ask loaded questions implying i did something wrong.
Ukto: I am curious now that you mentioned it
mircea_popescu: now, all these may be or may not be true, tho i lean towards thinking at least one probably is.
Ukto: Sure, those are all reasonable
mircea_popescu: c. gigavps is simply lieing (if nothing else for the simple interest that a 5 to 10% claim rate isn't something he'd like to admit)
mircea_popescu: a. nefario waited to see what's nto claimed, released lists including himself as beneficiary.
mircea_popescu: it would not surprise me if any of the three were the case :
mircea_popescu: by now it's been about 3-4 months, and all this communication happened over email in plain text.
mircea_popescu: 3. some more lists are issued. these are right, they say.
Ukto: er bought them ?
mircea_popescu: 2. some lists of shareholders are issued. these are wrong.
Ukto: so someone else claimed the shares on your behalf?
mircea_popescu: 1. very dubious character noteworthy mostly for being detained at the border takes exchange down, which nets him a scammer tag.
mircea_popescu: i didn't have an account to claim and i trust the op to not have claimed gigavps.
Lyspooner: When first we practice to deceive!
Lyspooner: Oh! what a tangled web we weave
burnside: that too
burnside: heh, the twisted web we weave.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, if we trust gigavps.
mircea_popescu: burnside this if we trust nefario
burnside: Yeah, I was operating on the assumption that he was being honest when he answered the question of ownership.
burnside: If all of the shareholders with over 900 shares have claimed, it sounds like whomever claimed the 900 shares of MP's on behalf of MP owes the passthru shareholders some BTC?
mircea_popescu: hm, how accurate is blockchain.info when calcing the fees ?
mod6: little bit of profits are needed somewhere in the mix
grubles: no one wants to answer my question? lol
Bugpowder: I think
mircea_popescu: maybe things are a lot more fragile than the bull run past week suggests
Ukto: as I said, bots just needed time to resituate after a selloff
Ukto: well thats good at lesat
grubles: so mircea_popescu on glbse was not the mircea_popescu that is chatting in this channel?
mircea_popescu: well at least the drama worked, price back up.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.12357, Best ask: 33.31649, Bid-ask spread: 0.19292, Last trade: 33.12257, 24 hour volume: 124639.50823768, 24 hour low: 30.90120, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 32.60481
mircea_popescu: and break whatever local laws in the process.
mircea_popescu: maybe we'd best focus on how many people got separated from their residual btc because they didn't want to cough up for whatever apositlle bs
ThickAsThieves: maybe the person he had manage the account decided to make an account as his name?
dub: its certainly not like mircea_popescu is known for employing lackeys for that kind fo thing
Ukto: so he did have them?