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jurov: yes
that side is clear... but on
the other side, maybe i can lend out
to coinbr users where i can force liquidate
them (hence bitcoinica reference)
jurov: transparency leads
to somilar
things like MPBPT investors bitching
that i endangered
their investment by setting
the rate
too high, lol
mjr__: exactly, i don't care who
they are, i would rather
trust mpex or coinbr
than an individual person, provided
that
there is an autoclose out feature and
there account is liquid enough
to be able
to buy back
jurov: i'd prefer
to run it closed with fixed interest, without dosclosing when i or someone other shorted and how much.
mjr__: if
they are right and
the short position works, i can increase my position for cheaper, if
they are wrong, i get my original shares back anyway, and still rely on dividends
mjr__: my whole point is
that i want
to increase my long position, but i don't want
to buy at market, so if people want
to sell at market, and
then have
to cover, i can buy back my own shares
mjr__: even better win, if
they win
the bet, i can double down
mircea_popescu: actually iirc
topace was working on some automation for crediting pushes
to his PT
mjr__: ie. i can just leave my shares in
that pool, but i specificy
that my
term will expire before dividends
mjr__: i meant a more automated system, yes Jurov and collects a portion of
the interest or fees i generate
jurov: i understood mjr__ looks for a broker he'll just push
the shares
to and broker does
the legwork
mircea_popescu: im sure any of
the pt ops would do
this, for instance.
mircea_popescu: unlike
the bitfinex system w./e
that is, you actually have signed receipts
to prove
this on mpex.
mjr__: mircea_popescu: I would rather have my shares in a pool for lending with
the understanding
that
the guy has
to have assets
to back it up. Similar
to bitfinex's system
thestringpuller: mjr__: smickles is working on something for
that purpose I
thik
mjr__: you COULD, but
there is no escrow
ThickAsThieves: while ive never used btcjam, i like how
the integrated using btct assets as collateral
mjr__: and i could have my shares which are just sitting
there earn extra income
Zillion: very new
to all
this if
that is a dumb question
mjr__: i
think it would be awesome if we could lend our shares out on mpex...with an escrow feature of some sort
Zillion: np just wanting
to be sure no wallet problems is all really
Zillion: LOL yeah but I am not
the
tycoon as you and need my measly coins
Zillion: Still no love on
that bet here mircea_popescu
splnkr: yeah i guess if you're going
to jump down a rabbit hole it might as well be
the one with
the most potential
to lead somewhere better
splnkr: to be constantly wrapped up in
their misdeeds is paralyzing
splnkr: it's a joke and i don't care
to stick around for
the punchline
splnkr: they are leading
the way
to 100 years ago
splnkr: i have less
than zero
time for
their BS
splnkr: pigeons: i'm not
trying
to defend politicians, but explain
them
mircea_popescu: i certainly dislike people
that do
that more
than people
that do coke.
mircea_popescu: i guess
this
teaches
the importance of not fudging numbers.
splnkr: well
the irony here is
that story about maxine waters misquoting a number probably got more exposure
than
the story about her exposing
the CIA-crack connection in
the 90's
mircea_popescu: but it's always easier
to self aggrandize and hyperbolize
than make points
splnkr: so for example, sometimes what looks like stupidity from
the outside is really willful ignorance
mircea_popescu: just make your motherfucking point,
that's what a congress is for.
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> lieing and misleading sucks. even
though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of
their position, perhaps sucks more <<<
this. nonspam detected.
splnkr: i had
the experience of running for an elected office once and it
totally changed my perspective
splnkr: look, if you view a
type of person as completely inhuman and one-dimensional so you can scapegoat
them, you're never going
to really understand why
they are
the way
they are
splnkr: whoa whoa
the killing and stealing are another issue altogether
pigeons: dont blame
the poor politicians
pigeons: people suck so im forced
to kill and steal
splnkr: well, maybe, or maybe it's
that people suck, and force politicians
to lie.
pigeons: lieing and misleading sucks. even
though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of
their position, perhaps sucks more
splnkr: now i wonder how
this affects BTC speculation =P
splnkr: but
the apt managers were
too dumb
to realize
they were just bandstanding
splnkr: well, now
the electricity service backpedaled and is offering a continuation at
the same rate
splnkr: for example an apt. complex i was advising decided
to build
their own cogen plant because
the electricity service was
threatening much higher rates
splnkr: however I
think a lot of us often react
to what people say when
they're
taking extreme positions for negotiation purposes
splnkr: she maybe meant
to say 176K
splnkr: but i do see your point in
this particular case
splnkr: sometimes you
take an extreme position
to reach a better compromise
mircea_popescu: splnkr ya well, here's
the deal : if
there actually existed 170mn jobs in
the us it wouldn't be in
the crapper would it
splnkr: in politics, sometimes you hyperbolize
to make a point
mircea_popescu: she's among
the best congress has
to offer and
that's what she says
splnkr: she was
the one
to bring allegations of CIA crack cocaine
trafficking
to light in DC
splnkr: she's among
the best Congress has
to offer
mircea_popescu: "Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA) claimed
today
that "over 170 million jobs" could be lost due
to sequestration. "
blu3gr1ffon: anyone getting in on
the BTC/USD at Mt.Gox will hit $35 in March 2013 bet?
Zillion: blu3gr1ffon ok
thanks just curious...usually
they are fast but
this one is big
blu3gr1ffon: if we are
talking about
the
the bitbet.us one.
Zillion: mircea has
the BFL March 1st bet paid out?
Bowjob: my priorities are backwards.. usually people go
to school first
Bowjob: then after
that perhaps go back
to school..
Bowjob: if
this rally continues, I'll be able
to afford a nice house at
the end of
the year
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 34.08001, Best ask: 34.17002, Bid-ask spread: 0.09001, Last
trade: 34.08001, 24 hour volume: 71974.65510805, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.23048
Bowjob: umm month, but he's referring
to
this years xmas
Bowjob: i guess
they bet either 300+ or
the 250 bet
Bowjob: from winning
the huge bfl bet
Bowjob: yifu said christmas came early
to
them
Bowjob: i havent set
the bet yet :P
Bowjob: "Starting from next Monday, units will be en route
to
their country of destination and
tracking numbers will follow maybe 2~3 days after (it is at
this point onward which you can expect an email from us with
the
tracking information), we expect
this process
to continue
to
the 10th of March until all
the units have been shipped out, if all is well people will get
their units in-hand in
the middle of March."
mircea_popescu: well ya but still,
things irl happen on some sort of
timescale
ThickAsThieves: i wanna complain
that he doesnt really give any dates or schedules, but
then again, who ever really lives up
to
those...
mircea_popescu: majority of batch 1, not majority of all items
they will ever produce