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Bugpowder: I liked the previous one 100,000,000% more
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes there is. proof : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136026418899.jpg
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you take it off.
jurov: also, existing coinbr users may want to put their referral link there... but i may as well keep these 0.2% to myself :P
mircea_popescu: im too busy with http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg
Anduck: and preferable drag&drop too
jurov: or he just exhausted all time in making pretty background, dunno
jurov: since namworld failed in that
jurov: i'm just engrossed deep into taming mktdepth data to be used in google spreadsheet
jurov: hehe thx
mircea_popescu: who did that ?
mircea_popescu: "Sums up this subreddit pretty well."
Bugpowder: Also need to move to LA
Bugpowder: just waiting for coins to go up a bit more...
Bugpowder: got a USB stick for that wallet
Bugpowder: still working on that
mircea_popescu: haha for the tesla ?
Bugpowder: BITCOIN is not though
mircea_popescu: so in short i doubt the short term anything but weakly predicts the vwap
mircea_popescu: but sometimes you made and sometimes you lost on that strategy
mircea_popescu: well it was a good theory, but i don't think it meets the data so far
mircea_popescu: moreover, there was a huge differential for days till yest
mircea_popescu: many times it was the case that large buys didn't match the theory
Bugpowder: that big option buy today is the exception that proves the rule
mircea_popescu: the difference is small, yet i just sold 80% of the month's book
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.10101, Best ask: 34.20462, Bid-ask spread: 0.10361, Last trade: 34.02000, 24 hour volume: 40252.89496290, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.95090
mircea_popescu: this is not actually true tho.
Bugpowder: as filtered through options purchases.
Bugpowder: in which case, we might be able to say (the spot price predicts future 24hprc)
Bugpowder: A lot of the option purchases occur when there is a large divergence between realtime spot price and 24hprc
Bugpowder: Hmmm.... Is this 24hprc?
mircea_popescu: also the crazyspike pre-A does sort of predict
mircea_popescu: looking at it roughly : A totally took a bite of concrete, B sort of predicted something, but muchkly exaggerated.
thestringpuller: it's all pointing to 42
mircea_popescu: there's a very speciffic=looking graph of the options breakeven points if you calc them all out
ThickAsThieves: gonna try and explain bitcoin to the wife tomorrow...
mircea_popescu: draw the graph if you will, it's a symetrical butterfly.
jurov: i found them being +- 1BTC
mircea_popescu: jurov they don't really have the same breakeven point
mircea_popescu: it'd only be fair in the fucked sense that term takes in any natural science/
mircea_popescu: which are dispersed in the full dataset
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the thing is, my bet is that there is predictive power of arbitrary precision for contiguous subsets
Bugpowder: jurov the C750T calls dont
Bugpowder: maybe I don't want to publish ;)
Bugpowder: of course if there IS predictive power
mircea_popescu: tell you what, if you promise to write a good statistical analysis and publish it i'll send you the ~300 datapoints on that graph
mircea_popescu: well, if you kept the logs...
Bugpowder: is there historical option trade data available?
mircea_popescu: what do you make of that graph ?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well, haerd to tell really.
mod6: ahh, its in the vwap now :)
Bugpowder: Is the OIX the like CO2? A trailing indicator?
Bugpowder: like at this time horizion out, even a 100-0 call put ratio can only push the OIX so high dependent on the call price
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i think miodterm. i think it was on an otherwise empty book someone buying some weird far out call
Bugpowder: whatever you call the option market making bot
Bugpowder: was that near opex?
mircea_popescu: the red horiz line on the graph
mircea_popescu: actually, there was a point where the oix was pushed to like 90
Bugpowder: there is, of course, a limit to how far a put or call imbalance can push the OIX
Bugpowder: I just wonder how much of the tracking of it to BTC price is due to the MPOE bot's algorithm vs. true market sentiment
mircea_popescu: this oix thing... it's actually pretty grounded
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.19001, Best ask: 34.24800, Bid-ask spread: 0.05799, Last trade: 34.24800, 24 hour volume: 40994.03888350, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.96591
mircea_popescu: with a little luck the comment'll get more upvotes than the article itself
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're up 12 votes now, and check ouit the comment
mircea_popescu: you're sure it must be in there somewhere, but you really don't want to dig it out
mircea_popescu: it's one of those cases where his point is like the puss in a zit
Bugpowder: Yah that dude has a little internet vote button
mircea_popescu: right next to each other.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoins price sentiment at a bearish weekly high, still twice as many believe in higher prices within 6 months. You agree? (self.Bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Options Index (^OIX) price sentiment indicator hits all time high ($42.66 / BTC) (self.Bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: who;'s got a reddit acct ? vote the man's story!
Bugpowder: up to 4th place
mircea_popescu: and i was thinking whoa mmorpg
mircea_popescu: i read that as a bonus vest originally
Bugpowder: you could have the bonus vest after x days or y trading volume
error4733: what is the last div for asicminer ?
mircea_popescu: "To protect against the situation where someone deposits, gets the bonus and immediately withdraws this offer is only valid for accounts which trade at least X"
kakobrekla: costs nothing to register unlike in your case
kakobrekla: its not taken away, you just dont have the right to withdraw it before that
mircea_popescu: this makes it sound like it's taken away
kakobrekla: in the news ...Bit4X Affiliate program
mod6: damn grails app was shitting the bed.
mod6: just got this huge problem fixed
Bugpowder: Maybe this is a catchier headline... http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/
mircea_popescu: what a thread killer.
jurov: look into the traceroute i put yest, if the ip is correct
mircea_popescu: ya well, that's in the same dc, so.
mircea_popescu: can you see trilema ?
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's no such thing.
jurov: mircea, can you pls ask the datacenter or at least give me their email?
jurov: maybe they decided to start one... it's too specific and long-standing to be some routing issue
jurov: maybe i fell into their new anti-ddos filter :(
Bowjob: now where is that mpoe havelock pt
jurov: someone used faucet to annoying end?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla big surprise there.
mjr_: is there a unicode character for bitcoin yet?
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.00002, Best ask: 34.09012, Bid-ask spread: 0.09010, Last trade: 34.09012, 24 hour volume: 45679.51468007, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 34.01969
topace_: looking for testers soon :)
B0g4r7: I don't know the story, but if the fees are disclosed in the terms and he didn't read or agree to them, then tough hash.