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mircea_popescu: okay, but you need eyeglasses to separate it
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: And in the hands of actual customers..
Bowjob: then theres this hungarian company that apparently made an asic as well
Bowjob: so its avalon 1, then bfl 1.. then avalon 2?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic it's an avalon/asicminer tie so far, apparently.
midnightmagic: I threw some orders at them just for the appreciation of their work with Icarus.
midnightmagic: I really never thought Avalon would beat them all to the punch like this.
mircea_popescu: so then bet is right on point
midnightmagic: Bowjob: Last update said something about all b#1 orders will have been shipped by mar 10, and everyone should have them by mid- to end of march..
Bowjob: looks like avalon will deliver their promise by april 1st
mircea_popescu: what's the april one at
midnightmagic: Bowjob: One of their Chinese customers stripped it apart I think and took a picture.
Bowjob: The dude now has 5 of those babies
midnightmagic: Bowjob: Oh. I guess I knew that.
Bugpowder: 1mb was too small for the total transaction! Had to be split
midnightmagic: Bowjob: what the hell man where's that
molecular: Bugpowder, I thought it'd state the payouts on the site... rechecking, maybe I just overlooked
molecular: Bugpowder, me too. lol
Bugpowder: There was some issues with transaction size limits, info in a triilrma post
Bugpowder: Molecular. That bet paid out already
molecular: anyone know what's the holdup with paying out the march 1st bfl bet http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ?
Namworld: So long as the amount shown in my stats are good. But odd for the display.
mircea_popescu: Namworld mpex got confused by the mistaken notion that 5mn shares are actually out
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.45894, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04106, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 15041.28017977, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22749
Namworld: BBET statement says 5.44167918 BTC to be distributed as dividends. On 10 million shares, that's like 54.4 satoshi per share, but MPEx shows 32 satoshi per share. What's with that?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60667, Best ask: 34.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00333, Last trade: 34.61000, 24 hour volume: 14786.71661983, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22162
mircea_popescu: you know the joke about the guy who cashed his bank account because he wanted to count his money ? something of the sort.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i think people are shifty yet.
maximian: it's the SatoshiDice show
maximian: head over to http:///blockchain.info
midnightmagic: .. er.. if it's tanking.
midnightmagic: Why's SD tanking..?
Bowjob: I got out of dice just before it came tumbling
mircea_popescu: lol more than half the month;s volume
Bowjob: dice took a beating today
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.42598, Best ask: 34.57010, Bid-ask spread: 0.14412, Last trade: 34.42349, 24 hour volume: 14866.21945414, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.21380
midnightmagic: dub: All I see is "[18:01:08] <midnightmagic> dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear." I guess all I can say is that's not a statement born of ignorance.
mircea_popescu: i guess i used the wrong word
mircea_popescu: "<BitHub> it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho"
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Hey man, in that log on that day you're talking about that boobpic I've been trying to grep for forever.
dub: we aim to please
midnightmagic: dub: *AWESOME* you just found for me the reference to the mpoe-pr boob pic that I've been searching for forever.
midnightmagic: dub: Do you have any more keywords for me to search on?
midnightmagic: dub: I'm trying to dig up the log because I'm curious what I was thinking at the time. I've actually grown up in a place (yes, they exist even in Canada) where one must assume the stranger is evil.
dub: midnightmagic: indeed, saw an interesting article about the very young having much greater altrustic tendancies which increases survival odds in an 'all the adults are dead' scenario
Chaang-Noi: just wonder if bfl will fail hard, are they still bumping or whatever?
Chaang-Noi: 600 times 60 ghs....
Chaang-Noi: i want to know how much asic miner shares are worth
thestringpuller: why do you want to know?
thestringpuller: based on a 500,000 NRE cost on the chips I assume there will be at least 600 total on the first "batch" of chips
Chaang-Noi: anyone happen to know off the top of their head how many avolons were made in batch one? or the total hashing power?
Chaang-Noi: BitHub> money first, then girls (this does work well)
BitHub: money first, then girls
mircea_popescu: srsly, girls are easy. you just have to make them feel safe they'll do anything.
BitHub: it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho
BitHub: trying to be realistic
BitHub: i hope that's me in 5 years haha
BitHub: lul and these girls are your friends and you just hang out wtih them?
mircea_popescu: that'll be very much their problem entirely.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hmm, you know... they also said underground resources belong to the state... wouldn't surprise me if they deem Bitcoin mining a national resource as well. :)
BitHub: i thought you were talkig about your daughters or something, till i click on the pics lul wtf
BitHub: take the girls up and down the river? wtf
midnightmagic: dub: It is a cultural perversion of what appears to be the most successful strategy for human progress.
dub: anyway, if I don't want this PM to actually climb up my ass I need to deliver some shit so I'm closing this term
mircea_popescu: i've not made a comment on the topic so far.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, did Silk Road ever approach you? To get listed, raise money and so forth.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect there's like five balls in three ballsacks available in the entire continental us.
dub: midnightmagic: my memory of it is different, I don't think we were discussing a specific place, only the existence of such places
mircea_popescu: if at least he had the guts to post something like "Same"
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu also, re the rules etc, http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu let me dig that out for you
Eduard_Munteanu: I guess mircea_popescu pledges to be the benevolent dictator of MPEx forever, after reading a bit through the contract.
dub: midnightmagic: its not the only time you have appeared to me to base your arguments around a world view couched in priviledged western culture
midnightmagic: dub: I was floored by the fact that it was so *in that specific locale*.
Eduard_Munteanu: I wonder if bitcoiners are going to experiment with different governance rules / contracts than you usually see in the real world. Which is usually majority of shares.
dub: midnightmagic: a little while ago there was a conversation where you appeared to be floored by the notion that in some locations/cultures the base assumption of a strangers actions being altruistic was false
mircea_popescu: well, contract says they got till the 5th
midnightmagic: dub: Also, stop asserting stupid things about me.
mircea_popescu: If there's ever going to be any progress...
mircea_popescu: which perpetuates the social and economic differences
mircea_popescu: by 'olding on to outdated imperialist dogma
mircea_popescu: now how'dja get that eh ? by exploiting the masses
midnightmagic: Unlike most people, I am not interested (this time) in simply honing my ability to refute. If and when you come up with actual cites, I'd be happy to look them up. I still have fulltext research credentials at the local university.
dub: and typing without looking at my screen
midnightmagic: I'm sorry you think that. You should realise that the implication is that I am aserting my mind can be changed.
dub: but im not in a meeting, on teh phone, and working to a thight deadline
dub: i'd like to continue this and know it looks like weasling out
midnightmagic: dub: Lots of people think that, but it is also possible to assess the quality of the data. So, IMO, no, it's not possible to find quality data which refutes any opinion.
dub: the problem is you can likely produce data to refute any opinion as can I
dub: I guess at some point, some people like to actually form an opinion
midnightmagic: dub: ALl that's required is that you reject well-grounded studies that disagree with your opinion, while selecting out those studies which agree with it or reinforce it in some fashion.
dub: midnightmagic: and I'f I were a victim of that would I need to have read about this before or after observing it?
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment. <<< ahaha epic
midnightmagic: dub: I'll presume you are aware of the notion of confirmation bias.
mircea_popescu: <dub> this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death << it's not genetic, it's cultural.
dub: midnightmagic: thats easy, it closely mirrors what I have observed
midnightmagic: dub: Also, if you are an experience guy, then why are you pointing to external data as the foundation of your assertions rather than just your experience?
midnightmagic: dub: Making negative assertions about the person you are having a discussion with is not usually productive. I'm readjusting my evaluation of your random, seemingly-connected comments post-statement.
dub: yes, well I'm more of an experience guy than a take debunkment at face value guy. Dorkins calls it the belief gene, though I don't really believe it exists.
dub: midnightmagic: regarding the chinese, not your culteral naivety