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jborkl: and you could build
trusted relay nodes
to push
transactions
dub: but I support
this move, if only
to see
the rage from Luke-Jr
jborkl: yes, if
they
tracked your first relay and knocked it off,
then next one
dub: yeah,
tell
that
to dalnet
mircea_popescu: it would be painful, especially if
they go after nodes one at a
time
mircea_popescu: jborkl " cant ddos
the entire network" << o but
they can.
jborkl: Mp, what about using bitcoin
to send
the
trade message
to your address. cant ddos
the entire network, put
the encypted message inside a signed
transactions- use it just like SD does
mod6: i should have examined
that closer
Lyspooner: we're like Visa
transactions in Kansas City
mircea_popescu: effects -
the big, main issuers, are
the issuers you use
mircea_popescu: issued by
the evil financial network, because of network
mircea_popescu: network, with
the result
that even
though everyone knows
mircea_popescu: due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and
the evil
mircea_popescu: Government sponsored enterprises enter
the business, in
mircea_popescu: from
the most recent attack still under way as I write
mircea_popescu: financial networks, with
the financial collapse ensuing
mircea_popescu: "o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG
TAKE A HIKE"
mircea_popescu: that's kind of
the problem, very chinese market out
there. "yes sir i
tell you we do ddosprotection"
dub: acording
to arbor anyway, I don't recall noticing any of
them
dub: heh, I've been ddos'd ~700
times in
teh last month
dub: google groups can probably
take
teh dos
mircea_popescu: dub i was more considering
that guy's bitmessage p2p
thing
jcpham: then add
the word "Psyche" at
the end.
dub: you could use nntp
tbh
jcpham: make
the story long enough and people will stop caring about halfway
through reading
mircea_popescu: jcpham i
think someone might have noticed
that mpex didn't answer on 23
jcpham: send a cryptic email explaining how
the hot wallet backup was unencrypted and accesible via
telnet
dub: gox is alive because nobody has mannned up
to replace it
mircea_popescu: i
think
there's enough presence
to keep
the stakeholders appraised.
BingoBongo: Gox is alive after all of
those Haxxed stories
dub: im not sure 'we had
to close doors due
to ddos' is great publicity
BingoBongo: Mircea, maybe you should
tweet @binarybits about
this interesting bitcoin story he could run on Ars... Any publicity is good publicity...
mircea_popescu: but it counts from way up, so it makes
the put side kinda high
too
mircea_popescu: a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours.
those don't count.
mircea_popescu: mjr__ understand,
the box was doing something like 0.07 load all
through
the ddos.
dub: not if
the router is on fire
mjr__: hmm couldn't you conceivably use QoS
to give
http traffic priority on
the router
Lyspooner: my sentiment is
that
the options aren't
there right now
mjr__: ie.
the router would drop all
traffic
that did not contain
the signed header
mjr__: i'm wondering if you could basically require a signed message in
the
http header request
to get
to
the webserver
assbot: It says some pelt-wearin'
trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect
that reward money.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 42.72301, Best ask: 42.84000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11699, Last
trade: 42.72301, 24 hour volume: 162226.99314014, 24 hour low: 33.30000, 24 hour high: 46.74900, 24 hour vwap: 41.19641
mjr__: and whether you have control/access
to it
mircea_popescu: but
the
thing is,
they actually
took
the
time
to blow up all
these.
mircea_popescu: mjr__ proxies help in
the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on a sort of private vpn
to mpex webservers
mircea_popescu: blacklotus is expensive, and i have yet
to locate anyone
that can give me
the straight dope about what
they actually do./
mjr__: as
to how one combats
this
mjr__: i'm sure you have
thought
this
through
mircea_popescu: cdn doesn't do
this.
there are ddos protection services out
there, but all have
their own issues
mjr__: and i'm sure
that
they are randomizing
the addresses enough
to bypass any sort of blacklist rirght?
mircea_popescu: and also, much larger infrastructure should be coming online during
the 8th.
mjr__: would a recaptcha and session
timeout not solve most of it?
mircea_popescu: also, we are currently working on using irc bot much like gribble works.
there should be one up soon and another during weekend.
mircea_popescu: as a relative rock bottom, if
things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed.
this has
the disadvantage
that it puts
the brokers in an iffy spot
mjr__: out of curiosity and i haven't really
thought
this all
the way
through
mircea_popescu: but
to expand on
the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if
things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and
trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back)
mjr__: i like
the protected message open channel
mircea_popescu: better and fairer just freeze
things for a little bit.
mircea_popescu: however, i judged
that'd create a haves/havesnot disparity
that's both huge and sudden
mircea_popescu: and only allow
trusted people on
the network
to
talk
to
the exchange
mircea_popescu: mjr__
trade is practgically frozen so nothing much would have changed.
mjr__: mircea: just wanted
to see where my positions were at
mircea_popescu: and honestly i
think colored coins are a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine
the sort of crap
that'd occur if
they caught on
BingoBongo: I could see getting pissed about colored coins or
the dude who put and MP3 on
testnet
trying
that on
the real blockchain, but miners filtering
transactions? Gavin reccommends conf settings for miners.
mircea_popescu: mjr__ right now you can't. what are you
trying
to do ?
BingoBongo: So
this got Hearn's panties in a bunch even
though he does so much work with SPV clients?
dub: you realise
that your anonymity model is bunk when you only connect
to nodes you
transact with
mircea_popescu: it will be a LOT easier
to handle
those issues with fixed addies
mircea_popescu: soon enough
there will be a market for mempool gatway rules.
jcpham: even
though everyone hates on it
mircea_popescu: the girl hinted as much at some point arguing with
the hearn&co idiot parade.
jcpham: i'm getting hella paid leasing my rigs
then