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jcpham: it's an interesting story about two events
jcpham: who wants me to tell them how paranoid i am
Bowjob: Looks like BFL might downgrade their specs
Namworld: Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Night
Namworld: Someone would have to be strongly dedicated for that to happen tho
mircea_popescu: knotwork it never did. i said at some point day before yest that if the worst comes to worst im taking mpex to email
knotwork: oh but thats it, email doesnt work for whole panoply of commands?
mircea_popescu: a yeah, t osign up. you gotta send me your public key
knotwork: its how I originally isgned up I think?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, wait till main mpex.co comes online
mircea_popescu: to talk to the irc bots, and you're golden
mircea_popescu: knotwork the tor proposition is a little more complicated
doctor_pullfingr: to hook up mpex to ripple
maximian: I wonder how that plays out legally
maximian: keep it out of the U.S.
maximian: It looks like you can actually start 100 t1.micro instances in Amazon's Ireland data centre… tempting
knotwork: I would've though the DDOS might just kind of clog entire Tor or i2p system
knotwork: is it true at all that using Tor .onion site or i2p site these DDOS attacks would not work?
knotwork: held wallet for you based on your IRC nick, one wallet per type of altcoin
knotwork: mine was plain IRC bot, just say hello to it give it password, standard insecure crap like normal people seem to prefer
knotwork: yeah weird, as it even still needs the gpg that people complain about
knotwork: its suprising people actually use IRC bot. I made entire exchanges between umpteen coin types before and no one ever used it
maximian: it just needs to be integrated into pympex and we're done
mircea_popescu: dude this irc bot thing is so cute...
knotwork: so you want to tamper-proof your own records of what you are holding on behalf of who?
mircea_popescu: prolly jurov can help you there
knotwork: what is the actual use case? own things in mpex on behalf of people you act as broker for?
mircea_popescu: Bowjob bitbet is doing some brisk trade this month for sure
doctor_pullfingr: I don't have enough rich friends where I can convince them to spend 30 BTC per account.
knotwork: though I suppose you could plug in GPG libs instead of OTs currencty crypto libs since it meant to be pluggable
mircea_popescu: knotwork i took it he meant he's concerned as to what to do with the data coming out of pympex
knotwork: mpex uses gpg authentication though so why you need OT's auth on top of that?
mircea_popescu: doctor_pullfingr yeah, i'm mostly talking outloud on the topic too
Bowjob: or bfl themselves lol
doctor_pullfingr: I'm not at all against that, just voicing a concern. I had the idea that the developer for the OT server thought more about authentication more than I care to think about it
Bowjob: i wonder how likely it is that by the time my avalon 2 ships, bfl still hasn't shipped?
Bowjob: take that BFL
Bowjob: someone in the us got their Avalon now
doctor_pullfingr: I'm kinda worried about security on that approach because Im just some warehouse developer.
maximian: mircea_popescu: what about setting up 100 AWS t1.micro instances (only $23/year if reserved, or $1.91/month), and install the proxy server and bind on each. Then add all 100 instance IPs as A records to mpex.co.
mircea_popescu: seem the easiest, just use as a lib
mircea_popescu: doctor_pullfingr im just thinking, you want to talk to mpex programatically, pympex is like two pages of python
mircea_popescu: kinda trivial but someone has to sit down and do it
mircea_popescu: nah, it would have to be encapsulated into a supybot
maximian: does pympex now work with this irc bot?
maximian: I'm lazy… just wanted to replace a string in pympex
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
doctor_pullfingr: If I want to sell ripple ious where people pay me bullshit fiat and I automatically purchase beloved satoshi dice, then I need something that talks to mpex. I think OT is the closest tool for that,,but some automation is probably lacking.
doctor_pullfingr: mp Open Transactions Server
knotwork: There is some kind of ubunto install now for OT, you just tell your system about the repo and use apt-get or somesuch to install it
mircea_popescu: you need the what ?
doctor_pullfingr: I think there is a ripple gateway client in the wild but to make it work with mpex seat you need the to server. I'm floating the idea for comments, I don't know for sure if this will work.
doctor_pullfingr: kakobrekla aren't we discussing the practical use of ripple?
doctor_pullfingr: thanks mp for the lesson I'll be changing my nick to bucketshop soon
kakobrekla: bitstamp is retarded, the only reason they have so big market share is cause they dont hassle folks with ids n stuff
kakobrekla: i think
mircea_popescu: with the novacocacoin ?
mircea_popescu: is bitstamp the russian one ?
doctor_pullfingr: maybe one of those fancy ripple gateways
doctor_pullfingr: Oh, I thought you meant sell the mpex key. I got the free ripples so I can sign up people already have, but I still want my own server.
pigeons: same as before, private payment networks, plus now the integration with bitstamp and ukto's weexchange
pigeons: you can have as many keys as you like but the keys arent "active" without 200 xrp owner reserve + 50 xrp + 50 xrp per trust line
smickles: (well, that's a silly way to put it)
doctor_pullfingr: i don't care if they open source the server or whatever, private licensees is fine, I just want my own server.
smickles: i tried OT, but it took so much to install on my system that i kinda burned out on it
pigeons: doctor_pullfingr: knotwork runs 2 open-transactions servers. ripple does have a server. do you mean cause they didnt open source the server yet?
doctor_pullfingr: I think you only get one key
doctor_pullfingr: has anyone tried open transactions ious? I like that ripple idea but they don't have a server
smickles: or rather, sell X and deliver the key
mircea_popescu: well, it's not taboo, it's just kinda stupid
smickles: how about this, register, buy X, sell the gpg key
smickles: also there is the taboo way to trade off mpex
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mircea_popescu: now, as long as the third party knows this, ie, you're not presenting yourself as a broker when you're not brokering this is all fine
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, if you're acting in a private capacity obviously you can do whatever you want with your own assets.
mircea_popescu: if you don't enter the trades you're not a broker, you're a bucket shot.
mircea_popescu: on one hand, if you're a broker, then you enter trades into the exchange at the behest of customers.
smickles: just because it's in my mpex account, doesn't mean i necessarily own it. I may hold it for another who then wants to trade with a third who wants me to hold it for them as well
mircea_popescu: that'd seem to be inside of mpex :p
smickles: < mircea_popescu> what do you mean outside of mpex ?! << transfer ownership of mpex assest as people, preferrably with contracts
pizzaman1337: np, thank you, man
pigeons: sel off? its higher than last time i looked by a few dollars
BitHub: ima have to sign up if i ever see 30btc to spare
BitHub: sorry i thought it was something dif
BitHub: ahh so you actually have mpex brokers that can trade outside of mpex?
dub: I had the same problem
dub: its there the site doesnt work in some browsers
Chaang-Noi: thanks dub facepalm for no link to that one the homepage...
mircea_popescu: actually brokers also work fine, the only thing off is the website
BitHub: and bids and asks on teh asset
Chaang-Noi: on bitfunder can you not see the market if you do not have an account?
BitHub: i like the idea of twitter trading for mainstreamers for situations like this
BitHub: irc trade is cool
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
mircea_popescu: dub so far we're doing irc bot trade.
dub: mircea_popescu: fatter tube holding up?
Chaang-Noi: i got messed up on thursday