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bgupta: ok now have posted
two
the-bucket-shop: no, I would add +1
to each retard mod. multiplying will put you way over
bgupta: ok my
typing has suffered
tonight as I drank a bottle of manzanilla
bgupta: I get "be odd on newbie: but
that's %^&ing retarded.
bgupta: I've starting
thinking about
things in btw… not USD… it's hard
bgupta: it's had an amazing run… (I
think it's not gonna collapse below 20 or so… but
that's just me).. I
think it has huge potential
bgupta: meh… guessing price is gonna need
to consolidate a bit.. before it can go up again
Bowjob: some serious resistance
this is
bgupta: fair enough…
they have
their utility.
mircea_popescu: just because your master stripped you naked and beat you with a whip doesn't mean
there's no need for whips in
this new state you're making "for freedom".
mircea_popescu: how do you expect btc
to work without financial instruments.
bgupta: gotcha… ok I have
to admit, I
think
the shit futures/options/derivatives are gonna make a number of folks very rich, I wish we could leave all
that baggage behind is in
the fiat world. We don't need wall street and hedge funds and institutional folks
to "help us along"
bgupta: json is human readable.. but… I need
to whip out cli shit
to deal.. one moment.. (I'm slow)
bgupta: me hates me some derivatives. (unless of course.. I am issuing
them)
bgupta: Ohhhh… was gonna ask what
these
things are..
mircea_popescu: twitter.com/mpex1 or you could just follow
the
twitter.
mircea_popescu: all
the earlier excitement about
the
trading puts for instance
bgupta: mircea_popescu: are your
trades listed publicly? IE: do I need
to buy in
to see
traffic?
mircea_popescu: lol
that's not a problem,
the internet was born
to kvetch
Bowjob: I'll warn
them next
time
they
try
to pull
this shit again, I will yell at
them so
that all
the guests will hear it.
bgupta: (Realising
that 300 btw is penny-ante)
bgupta: I am ready
to buy sink 300 some odd btw into asicminer..
these penny-ante exchanges aren't quite cutting it.
mircea_popescu: i
thought
the biggest complaint was
that i'm not nice.
bgupta: err.. lot me clarify "everything
that bitches" means "everyone
that bitches about mpex"… I believe
that's
the biggest complaint. and I'm ok with it…
mircea_popescu: but yes,
there's a large assignment market in it
too, otc.
dub: bgupta: friedcat (asicminer guy) is
timely about
transferring etc
dub: bgupta:
there are lots of otc asicminer
trades happening, check
the auction forum
mircea_popescu: "everyone". hm. it's more of a "everyone
that's bitching about it is bitching about it".
bgupta: ok..
that would make
trading difficult for me if it was a
trading cost.
bgupta: SO
the muse
thing
that everyone bitches about
the 30btc
thing..
that's just a one
time
thing, no?
Bowjob: theres a second piano downstairs
that i do not care about
mircea_popescu: think of it in
these
terms : company pops up, doesn't list on nyse, lists on pink sheets
Bowjob: I feel so violated..
that piano is my personal one
bgupta: what does
that mean
they "blew a listing"
bgupta: mircea: Is
there a way
to buy straight up shares of asicminer, without doing passthrough stuff?
bgupta: mircea_popescu: Without asking you
to divulge
too much roughly what part of
the world are you in?
Bowjob: ... stupid fucking parents
taking my piano downstairs
bgupta: considering initial investors bought shares at ~0.1btc
that should happen sooner
than later
bgupta: so one
thing I discovered is once
the initial asicminer investors have been paid dividends drop by half.. since
the real investors own half of
the whole
thing.
bgupta: thanks for
the link will read..
bgupta: I set
that up ages ago… not sure if it's enabled
bgupta: trying
to value
the shares, as
they are starting
to climb… faster
than I can
transfer btc out of mtgox (which is where has been my wallet for
the past year.)
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the-bucket-shop: I've not looked at numbers for asicminer but I've met people at meet ups
that seem
to like it alot
bgupta: I perhaps overshared, and for
that I apologize, I;m a bit
too open
that way.
bgupta: so
the real reason I can into
this channel was
to ask what folks
think about ASICMINER shares, and
the passthrough variants.
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bgupta: I get
to onsite awesome folks
to NYC
to
talk
to a bunch of geeks
dub: benkay: I had
that at ibm, nobody (besides customers) had any clue what I did
benkay: what's
the appeal in
the lug?
benkay: but it's part of my mystique
that i show up at
the office kind of randomly
bgupta: I get
to pick my priorities..
benkay: boss-folks like
to see my face from
time
to
time
benkay: i get
to bill anywhere i am
bgupta: The one
thing I do like about it is
the flexibility...
mircea_popescu: "Japan needs
to face up
to reality, and
take real steps
to correct its mistakes... so as
to prevent a further escalation,"
Bowjob: stupid parents
took my piano away
benkay: i've never seen someone run
the shop and still make commits
benkay: i've seen
that happen man
bgupta: benkay: I run a small consulting company.. it's not just me… so most of my
time is spent doing business stuff not learning
dub: bgupta:
the bitcointalk market or auction forums
bgupta: dub what forum would I post it
to if I wanted
to pursue?
benkay: mircea_popescu:
the best part is
that everything i get checks for, i also learn new skills
that multiply my rate
dub: tis potentially a nice way for someone
to cash out $200k of btc
too
bgupta: mmm..
to make a dollar you need
to sell a body, brutal.. no real leverage, no real product.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> it's fucking nice
to build stuff people value enough
to cut checks for <<
this.
mjr_: dub: yep,
the market fixes
that situation
dub: the great
thing about bitcoin is
there is no shortage of idiots, some with
too much money
bgupta: I do OSS stuff, love
that
too
dub: its probably worht
throwing a
thread up about it
benkay: it's fucking nice
to build stuff people value enough
to cut checks for
bgupta: if someone flush with btw wanted
to
take it off my hands I'd be cool.. but
that's a side bar..
benkay: aren't
there
things you'd enjoy working on more?
bgupta: point is
that if I worked really hard I could sell it for $200,000, or if I worked even harder, I could build a kick ass business with a cool domain name
that's easy
to
type.. I have
time for neither atm.
mircea_popescu: the way
to go is just invent a name and use
that as your
tm and domains
benkay: i infrequently
type domains
dub: yeah for most people google is
the address bar
benkay: doesn't mean i don't
think
that putting it all on a specific slot on
the fucking roulette
table is a good idea