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mircea_popescu: so it's an identity in that more mathematical sense, not in the more psychological sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: you're really veryifying that the key signing here is the same key signing there
mircea_popescu: you're not really verifying that the key is really this bloke in timisoara you couldn't care less about
mircea_popescu: that's the idea, whart dub says
dub: or that he is who he says he is
Josh_Rossi: and then i can see that the key actually signed that statement
Josh_Rossi: i trust that they key i used was really you
mircea_popescu: gpg kinda predates the internet
mircea_popescu: originally these keys were invented for and used by people whose real world presence was more important to each other
Josh_Rossi: all i know is that they say "this is my pub key"
mircea_popescu: ya hence the key signing parties and whatnot.
Josh_Rossi: but in the case of someone else
Josh_Rossi: and in your case, it is known that that is your key
Josh_Rossi: yes true
Josh_Rossi: i guess they are saying that while that key is definitely valid
mircea_popescu: however, you didn't identify the key by it being named joe
Josh_Rossi: someone with access to that private key
mircea_popescu: what they mean is, anyone can create a key which would be named "Joe"
Josh_Rossi: but it also said something like "this message is signed by this key, but that does not mean that it is really him"
Josh_Rossi: and verified that you signed it
Josh_Rossi: i saw MPOE-PR show a sig that verified that she was authorized to speak on behalf of MPOE
Josh_Rossi: or i guess more accurately, learn more about how trust and cryptography are related
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do ?
mircea_popescu: rather than the nominalist approach, try the functional
Josh_Rossi: yes, does the WoT take the role of a key signing party
mircea_popescu: Josh_Rossi you mean the wot ?
Josh_Rossi: i assume that everyone has read or is aware of that book...but if not it is amazing book about cryptography and digital currencies that was written before btc took off i think
Josh_Rossi: i mean fulfill the role that a key signing party would have fulfilled
Josh_Rossi: like key signing? or does gribble basically do that for us
Josh_Rossi: is there some sort of certificate system?
Josh_Rossi: scary thought
mircea_popescu: moreover, if i lost my id i would be meh, send someone to get a new one
Josh_Rossi: and for the most part in real life, people trust you to be you cuz you look the same
mircea_popescu: certainly true.
Josh_Rossi: you don't use them as often as you go online
Josh_Rossi: because while you do need those
Josh_Rossi: i had a long discussion with someone about how online identities may become much more valuable than social security numbers or drivers licenses
Josh_Rossi: well, i kind of want to start using pgp for certain emails
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO)
Anduck: i havent touched my gpg since that
Josh_Rossi: but i already set up a script to do it with pgp
Anduck: sign it with the btc addr
Anduck: do ;;bcauth and when you get the string
Josh_Rossi: i think so
Josh_Rossi: well, i got that all taken care of
Josh_Rossi: but i realized that you are just changing the btc address from none to whatever
Josh_Rossi: yeah, i got it, i thought that was going to change my pgp address
dub: add btc address to his otc user I think
Azelphur: Josh_Rossi: care to elaborate on what you're trying to do?
Josh_Rossi: so i can't find any info on the wiki about adding a bitcoin address
mircea_popescu: "this is to prove key ownership over irc session 10 mar 2013 not valid for any other purpose"
pigeons: ;;ident topace_
topace_: ;;ident topace
mircea_popescu: if you can't id with that i'll have to ask you to sign something.
mircea_popescu: ;;ident topace_
topace_: mircea_popescu: so i just got a push receipt, that validates, but there arent any extra units in my account to account for the push?
MJR__: did you see that South Park?
dub: turning right is the devils work
MJR__: gonna drive straight, then turn to the left
mircea_popescu: dub the funny thing is, one of the things american ppl in england tend to mock is the roundabouts
dub: rule 1 of amurika, thou shalt not disparage driving around in a circle http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/racing/news/20130308/nascar-fine-denny-hamlin-las-vegas-preview/
kakobrekla: what that, two klins?
topace_: pigeons: mpex transfer should work again now
topace_: ah there we go
pizzaman1337: pympex works for me, I just edited the key. Make sure you sign the new one too.
jurov: topace, did you upgrade to my versionabove?
FabianB: topace_: did you edit in the new one in the source?
topace_: oh its telling me to email you my public key first
topace_: pympex keeps telling me invalid signature,. but i have the new one in my keyring, and its signed
FabianB: if there are existing users: key can be changed in ~/.mpex/config.yaml
jurov: mjr_ had to very quickly move whole site and learn how amazon ec2 works
jurov: mjr_ well, i got sick of the whole situation (as if i catched cold)
mjr_: that was a nice experience, ltc into btc-e, traded for btc, and gone back to coinbr in less than a half hour
mircea_popescu: i mean topace_ ^
topace_: can't even get to mp's blog to get the gpg key data
topace_: is there a working mpex proxy besides the bot here?
topace_: gotta find the details on it.. since mpex is down i dont know where to look
topace_: pigeons: yea, i need to get that new key in there
maximian: still, nice to see some some demand return
maximian: yep, and trade volume is still light. probably no big moves without some news.
pizzaman1337: big wall at 0.00622500 though
maximian: could be… we might see a nice recovery back to the .0070s
mircea_popescu: might explain the s.dice surge
mircea_popescu: when was that released ?
maximian: it could be that the rise in the exchange rate is being offset by more players
gabridome: I've updated the shell script with the id of the new key https://github.com/gabridome/mpex-sh/blob/master/mpex.sh
maximian: Here's something interesting - the average SatoshiDice bet size doesn't appear to relate to the BTC/USD exchange rate as many assume. Analysis by dooglus: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1606184#msg1606184
gabridome: yeah..Beg your pardon. You should be tierd to answer question to newbies. I didn't check the subkeys...
mircea_popescu: gabridome the old one was 1k/4k
gabridome: I've got to check something
gabridome: so I guess gpg tools keyring doesn't read well the lenght(?) mmhhh
pigeons: topace_: looks like your mpex transfer script needs to look for the sig by the new mpex key
FabianB: maximian: thanks, if you have any suggestions i'll constantly try to improve it
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: bot to arb S.DICE on mpex/havelock?
pigeons: dont bother asking the fingerprint, just the lenght and expiry date
pizzaman1337: nice to see S.DICE up a bit
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: gpg doesn't seem to be able to find that key for me, would you mind posting the key block somewhere?
gabridome: smickless: remember to change youKeyID and to put eventually the esclamation point
dub: mircea_popescu: using coinbr ont the proxy