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mircea_popescu: would it be possible for
the bot
to keep a count of
the chat lines during past 5 minutes and send
that response by pm if value > 50 ?
mircea_popescu: seriously know. who
told
them
they know shit and when exactly ?!
mircea_popescu: reading a digest of
the bitcoin-dev chan, i am struck by how incredibly pompous
these people are.
mircea_popescu: PSA : starting yest MPEx is adding 0.001 fee
to all
txs, whether needed or not (it's almost never actually needed). Support
teh network!
benkay: in reality, dog needs
tiring first
benkay: maybe i alpha sort everything on
the outfeed, huh?
mircea_popescu: such balance is apparent in
the sorting of
the [dog ; lady] set.
benkay: but also would like
to close out workblock, make commits, email people "yay" and go play with dog and lady
benkay: tempted
to pause
timer and read
gesell: other
than being hacked dont remember bitcoinica gaming
the market
gesell: mircea_popescu: i cant wrap my head around how
that would all play out. just assume before running any bot one would make comfortable limits, and some way
to guage when
things are getting out of control so you know when
to
turn off
mircea_popescu: and it is feeding it from
the
trades on other exchanges
gesell: mircea_popescu: what do you mean by fake
trades? I
think on btc24, unlike mtgox, if you buy your fiat gets locked and you cant make another order. same on sell. of course
their own local bots could fake, but i could not prove
this. and actually
they wouldnt have
to fake, if all
they really want
to do is some moderate protection from arbitrage
mircea_popescu: in fact it's probably
the main source of volatility atm
mircea_popescu: have everyone entering fake
trades based on
the other people's fake
trades averages
gesell: up
to a certain limit, perhaps set based on numbers of averages on other exchnages
gesell: perhaps. just mapped
their bots edges and it
tends
to push it's own reserve volume over other bids
that it
thinks are
too low
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 48.10003, Best ask: 48.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last
trade: 48.19000, 24 hour volume: 41520.07762161, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.51308
gesell: i swear
to god
they have
their own bots running on
the exchange. not sure what
the objective is but see some bots responding with <200ms
timing
gesell: not sure how bitdata compiled
that chart. it isnt eur specific
gesell: beh,
they got
their own bots on
the exchnage <shakes fist> not
that it matters
gesell: what
tha, btc24 now second largest exchange?
that was fast
FabianB: thank you maximian, if
that was you
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 48.19322, Best ask: 48.19341, Bid-ask spread: 0.00019, Last
trade: 48.19322, 24 hour volume: 41895.49680393, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.48907
smickles: the list just keeps growing. In
two weeks, we'll have something like nano's gribble on our hands
ThickAsThieves: i assume all email revenue goes
to making mpex aesthetic improvements
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves:
To sign up for
this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
dub: I swear its synergy
throwing away half my keystrokes
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 48.16000, Best ask: 48.18310, Bid-ask spread: 0.02310, Last
trade: 48.16000, 24 hour volume: 41803.52824419, 24 hour low: 45.47100, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 47.48502
mpexbot: and if you can, hire a group
to make it happenj
mircea_popescu: it should have a list. if person is not on
that list, "You're not cool enough for
this service sorry."
smickles: $mail \n <mpexbot> 3 ways
to a larger PENIS
smickles: haha, come
to mpexbot
to check your email !
pigeons: i'm down with finger instead of
this
twitter stuff
mircea_popescu: maybe i should upgrade
the php proxies
to also forward mail.
mircea_popescu: dude i'm asking you for
the difficult, you're asking me for
the impossible.
smickles: i
think i've lost every bitbet bet i've made
smickles: that is how botnets work
tho, isn't it?
smickles: also,
the
thing is proxy aware and checks for updated proxy lists
dub: if you care about price you are
the wrong kind of investor
gesell: kivy is interesting. new
to me
smickles: i have
that one drawn up right now. left side full depth (scrollable) right 2/3's has details up at
top and input middle, confirmation button at bottom
dub: this is mpex, we invest for
the future, regardless of price
smickles: yeah, i'd figure you'd want
to know
the best ask if you planned
to buy
smickles: lol, well,
the buy button goes
to a detailed asset page with price and quantity inputs
gesell: smickles: yes,
they people on upper speedball sauce will have
to click for each buy whereas on button down
they could just Hooooooold and buy shit loads
smickles: gesell: aw, i picked button released, is
that bad?
smickles: and
that i should be able
to make binaries for win, mac, linux and android with it
smickles: gesell: it's a
toolkit which uses opengl, i don't know
too much about it
gesell: then i hope
the buy button creates a buy event on button down and not button released ;)
mircea_popescu: "i get
the feeling ima wake up one of
these days and like
there will be a little mpex anthill, and mpex
transaction wallpaint and i can order a stat from
the magazin alimentar"
gesell: smickles: is
that QT based?
mircea_popescu: pigeons lemme quote a person familiar with
the matter, for your benefit :
pigeons: i want bricks of some sort
then
gesell: mircea_popescu: not sure. i
think i just dont explain abstract
thoughts well.
FabianB: gesell: in both cases you need gpg
to
trade
mircea_popescu: what do
they feed you over
there, uppers in speedball sauce ?
smickles: mircea_popescu:
that mpex gui i'm developing is nearly functionally complete
mircea_popescu: for some reason i have a lot of
trouble following
this guy.
gesell: smickles: yeah mpexbot... so it could be
that just as mpex forces people
to understand
that
the odd security model is better (and forces people
to learn why and learn what pgp is) maybe it is of value
to force
them
to use a different interface in a similar way. but
the cause and effect is not as clear with
the Web vs Mpexbot, as it was with
the gpg protocol
mircea_popescu: what i don't care about is appearance bullshit.
there's a very good reason for
that : unlike
the web,
the retail market for plastic figurines and fake fags,
gesell: pigeons: if change of face did effect
trade volume,
that is interesting
to explore
mircea_popescu: pigeons
that is exactly
the opposite of reality. i very much care how it feels. which is why
the proxy doesn't have spurious dongles, but feels just like
the real
tihng.
smickles: gesell: did you notice
that my mpexbot has a direct line into mpex, yet doesn't look like a mirror?
gesell: pigeons: even if he doesnt care. it is still interesting
to consider what
the market effects of change of face are, and where
the middle ground is, and where
there is space
to innovate in a intuitive way. or maybe
there isnt really
gesell: mircea_popescu: hobby web dev for aesthetics. serious code and hardware hacker for
the $
gesell: mircea_popescu: for lack of a better comparison... say for instance
that some brokerage firm was had
their own interface
to nyse showing
trades and
tickers.
this would "feel" decoupled from
the excchange itself so people would not associate
the
two. if nyse decided
to change how
they present
themselves
that brokerage face would not be percieved as, i dont know, a quick crutch
to fill
the gap. where as when it is mirroring nyse so closely
smickles: so
the ddoser's name is "the face"?
pigeons: and people can learn
to
trade anyway
gesell: if
the face effects
trades
then, well, recovery should be monitored. and hopefully
there is recovery
FabianB: well stock
trading volume went down, but never stopped; options as usual
gesell: mircea_popescu: well its also strange
that
the proxy seems
to be a mirror. as apposed
to it being it's own form of interface.
gesell: mircea_popescu: it's
the face. but is interesting
to contemplate what
that means and reshaping it.
mircea_popescu: nothing's affected other
than
the website which people somehow get fixated on.
gesell: mircea_popescu: are
those feeds not effected by
the ddos?