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smickles: mircea_popescu: i know, but how would you be careful about it. seems binary to me
mircea_popescu: if it's not temporary then there's no mining oportunities
gesell: brief opportunities if that
mircea_popescu: gesell it's a temporary thing.
gesell: also, what effect would this split have on hash/mining opporutunities?
the-bucket-shop: I mean satoshidice can get famous off of this news
mircea_popescu: in the devteam.
mircea_popescu: vampireb it's hopefully the end of a certain misplace attitude.
mircea_popescu: smickles that incoming txs might be wiped on fork merge
BitHub: it not the end of the world?
the-bucket-shop: never let a tragedy go to waste fellas. Plaster Satoshi Dice's name all over the news and posts if you can.
smickles: how is one to be careful?
benkay: i'd take a bearish position on ltc, settled next month...
smickles: "Every be very careful about accepting any transactions for the the next few hours" << what is that supposed to mean :P
vampireb: so what? it isn't the end of the world. a minor hiccup
benkay: too bad he never got around to it.
mircea_popescu: vampireb so he was looking to hire a qa. good for him.
Bowjob: now lucif is gonna make some bullshit up how he calculated this could happen
smickles: "an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make it happenj"
dub: if the 20k failsafe is still there
dub: but today would be a good candidate
vampireb: well guess what, that's why when I last time I met gavin he was looking to hire QA
benkay: did testnet testing not catch this due to atomic transaction size blah blah?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.01000, Best ask: 45.90277, Bid-ask spread: 0.89277, Last trade: 46.50000, 24 hour volume: 70342.96544144, 24 hour low: 43.11000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.71424
mircea_popescu: that's how things work.
mircea_popescu: you make an upgrade that fucks up the network, it's not the db, it's not satoshi, it;s you.
dub: the one in the middle
mircea_popescu: vampireb mkay. who put the db in there ?
vampireb: i dont have the context, but ok
dub: BitHub: they supply the biscuit
mircea_popescu: smickles i think op was discussing shorting btc
BitHub: what is the point of the foundation
smickles: well, if anyone want's to short s.mpoe, i have a fair amout of shares available
mircea_popescu: dja see what i did there ?
mircea_popescu: this will probably be the foundation of all further discussions
dub: gesell: this will spill over into all manner of discussion
Bowjob: k thats all i care about
mircea_popescu: Bowjob doesn't have much to do with asics this
gesell: will this spill over into the discussion of soft limits and sdice foo?
BitHub: isn't that the foundation job? or not really?
mircea_popescu: vampireb read up the context in the channel you're talking.
Bowjob: are asics safe and compatible after this?
BitHub: why doesn't the bitcoin foundation use all that money to actually hire proper programmers
smickles: gesell: you want to short s.mpoe?
vampireb: well not a bitcoin issue, the old db was a problem
mircea_popescu: the problem is that much like anything else of the kind, it depends on keeping politics low.
BitHub: hand the code over to bill gates
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of intrinsic strength in the open and independent dev model.
pizzaman1337: so what's the best solution?
Bowjob: btc-e trollbox is celebrating
mircea_popescu: that's no way to go about things.
dub: bitcoin is so resilient it only took one satoshidice to break it
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: have you considered hiring people to work on it?
mircea_popescu: Bowjob the design is very strong.
evoorhees: it's how resilient btc is in the face of them that matters
evoorhees: Bowjob don't be a fool. If you actually saw the devs react to this and remedy it, you'd be very impressed
BitHub: just email your wallet.dat to the bitcoin foundation tell them they've won and then hang yourself
mod6: i've got a chain that was last updated dec 29th...
Bowjob: Everyone move to lite coin!
Bowjob: I thought we're supposed to be unhackable and shit
Bowjob: this actually scares me.. that bitcoin can be compromised like this
Bowjob: what bullshit is this
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.00000, Best ask: 45.10989, Bid-ask spread: 0.10989, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 66465.70498496, 24 hour low: 43.11000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.77472
mircea_popescu: smickles see if anyone wants to pay you 50 btc for it
BitHub: ima have to read this :)
dub: BitHub: they kinda are
mircea_popescu: da fuck did you think tho ?
dub: and no reindex in 0.7 so you have to download and validate the chain
mircea_popescu: let the smarter folks merge it
mircea_popescu: the only way is basically foer the people who upgraded to downtime
BitHub: he needs to come in and fix these n00bs mistake
kakobrekla: someone stab him in teh face
dub: you cant downgrade to 0.7
kakobrekla: where is the url
dub: oh this is gettgin good
BitHub: to be honest i have noticed the lack of like really really god like programmers
mircea_popescu: they just want dorks admiring them.
mircea_popescu: BitHub they're for the most part not intelligent enough to understand the point or value of money.
BitHub: all good, but yeah, makes me think they could just do this sort of stuff on purpose just to manipulate the price
mircea_popescu: when i told them they'll be pushed aside coupla months ago i guess they groked it
dub: mircea_popescu: at least for the next 100 years
mircea_popescu: dub yes, they want it forever this niche toy where they matter.
Bowjob: wow.. what will the institutional investors think
dub: mircea_popescu: its obvious they don't want adoption
mircea_popescu: BitHub i'm not going to go into that level of detail.
dub: mircea_popescu: you know the answer right
Chaang-Noi: Ukto tell me more, i heart ltc
mircea_popescu: BitHub i'd be more than happy if the usual pompous idiots came out with an apology.
BitHub: mircea do you think the bitcoin foundation will pay out a compensation? lul
mircea_popescu: it's just that now btc is worth half a bn dollars
mircea_popescu: BitHub they've been doing this shit since day one
ThickAsThieves: why do they even need to change the code
the-bucket-shop: my guess miner hardware related. total wild guess
Bowjob: This is a huge blow to bitcoin. WTF I thought its supposed to be secure
Bowjob: All right, what the fuck is going on
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.12000, Best ask: 44.50000, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 43.12000, 24 hour volume: 62664.75566320, 24 hour low: 43.12000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 46.92695
Chaang-Noi: mp i sold 50k ltc yesterday for btc, odds on this being accepted?
mircea_popescu: and then they merge into one that doesn't include you being paid.
mircea_popescu: crediting incomingpayments may be unsafe, if they are doublespent across the forks
davos: meh - its only down 4, less than 10%