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smickles: mircea_popescu: look at blockchain.info,
the major pools are mining an orphaned chain
dub: good day for not being
the guild pool op
mircea_popescu: the wrong chain is lionger yet you're
telling me
the miners are moving.
smickles: mircea_popescu: it mined a block sized larger
than 250k
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it prolly destroyes
those unfortunate fucks
that paid out on
the 0 diff
smickles: mircea_popescu: some arn't,
the largest pools are
mircea_popescu: good luck getting
the miners
to accept a 14 block loss
smickles: kakobrekla: but
the differenc will be more and more difficult
to
tell soon
smickles: right now, you can 'bitcoind getinfo' and look at
the height. current 'wrong' chain is at 225453, .7 is at 225442
mircea_popescu: you just emit
txs.
the miners add
them on
their mempools
smickles: topace_: as a regualr user, i dunno. but it'll switch over automatically when
the .7 chain is longer
topace_: how can you
tell if your bitcoin daemon is on
the right chain?
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 45.01000, Best ask: 45.89900, Bid-ask spread: 0.88900, Last
trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 119265.24377758, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.50395
mircea_popescu: what is
the barrier
to entry
to
this, make
two
txs,b roadcast it
to
two diff nodes.
mircea_popescu: and it is unlikely (but possible) <><< yeah.
they know.
smickles: < BitHub> so if someone sends me coins now
they're gone for good? << no, it's up
to which chain it's included in
kakobrekla: >The risk is small because
this is not a network split--
transactions are being sent
to both sides of
the chain split, and it is unlikely (but possible)
that somebody could get
two versions of
the same
transaction into
the
two sides of
the chain.
kakobrekla: which mean a few bitbets will have
to be invalidated
kakobrekla: imho
they will be respendable with
the longer chain not containing
that
tx
BitHub: so if someone sends me coins now
they're gone for good?
smickles: and
there is still confusion among
the devs
ThickAsThieves: Schrödinger's BitBet -
This bet will have more
total BTC bet on Yes
than on No before it closes.
smickles: and some miners are still adding
to
the main chain
smickles: you ought
to wait until
the .7 (short) chain grows longer
than
the main chain
BitHub: safe
to recieve payments again?
kakobrekla: bitcoin split, price crashed all while you were
takign a piss
topace_: jesus whats going on with
the blockchain??
BitHub: how many hours
till next asicminer divy?
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: your blog fails
to load
mircea_popescu: just...
the weight of
the calls sold is so much heavier
than
the weight of
the puts bought just now
smickles: mircea_popescu: what's up with
that?
gesell: "(04:04:59) gmaxwell: jeffgarzik is /msging me
telling me
that jgarzik is an imposter." --- heh, and people still have
the heart
to
troll. oh internets
gesell: just for
the record
the drop started at 2:41am GMT+1 (had some logs)
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.03000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last
trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 111563.57296537, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.44028
gesell: blacklistblock = regulation.
though peer agreed. which is fascinating because we do not have such language in
traditional finance
gribble: One would be wise
to
think so.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 42.72770, Bid-ask spread: 0.12770, Last
trade: 42.60000, 24 hour volume: 109893.67866310, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.44885
vampireb: not recovered,
there still a fork.
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 42.60000, Best ask: 42.65559, Bid-ask spread: 0.05559, Last
trade: 42.60000, 24 hour volume: 109984.04612509, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.45198
gesell: dub: i agree. if it comes
though it would be slowly and with a different label
dub: you're going
to have a hard
time selling
these guys oversight
gesell: dub: i dont
think my statement disagress with
that at all. just looking at new horizons for
the experiment
Uglux: <satoshinakamoto> I'm back
to save
the day
dub: gesell:
the attitude of
the dev
team has always been
that bitcoin is
their little science experiment and its not intended for production
Bowjob: Aight, I guaratneed 75 BTC
to be sold at.. $2799
gesell: i wonder if apart from
the discussion about soft limits, we will also start
to see features
that give more oversight and regulation, even if more symbolic
than bernanke like. such letting bitcoin-dev patch or blacklist more quickly or perhaps at will
gesell: did anyone see where
this first started and was coming
to
the surface?
gesell: question... so just curious would
the initial errors
that 0.7 clients were reporting (
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=30587843) that sipa mentions, would
those just be bug reports
to bitcointalk or
to sourceforge bug
tracker or? just curious where alerts of such issues before its plastered everywhere would come from
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 39.01138, Best ask: 40.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98862, Last
trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 107876.01377001, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.55733
smickles: gesell: i
think most btc exchanges are anti-killswitch
Bowjob: before
this shit blows out of proportions
gesell: i dont know, im not a fan of kill switches so i'd like
to see bitcoin-dev's learn from
this so
that similar bugs in
the future can be handled without shutting anything down
smickles: it might be risky on
the chain
tho
Bowjob: Are we allowed
to do
transactions
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 36.68160, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.31840, Last
trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 105824.64907266, 24 hour low: 36.65000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 44.68534
kakobrekla: or do you go on
the
trading floor yourself
dub: whats a
time like
this for
traditional markets?
kakobrekla: do you go
to your FX broker
to get it?
smickles: gesell:
traditional markes shut down at
times like
these
Chaang-Noi: pigeons see my link, i found
that helpful
gesell: kakobrekla: first, im sorry
this is all happening. im sure it is ruining some peoples day. but why do you see it as a mtgox problem?
kakobrekla: serious
tranders dont suffer shit like
this
Bowjob: how much will BTC drop by do you
think
kakobrekla: so gox is
turning in historcial btc chart reading site
dub: nicely scaling
there gox
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 37.80000, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last
trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 101597.26956421, 24 hour low: 37.80000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00044
smickles: mircea_popescu: is
that unchanged on
the 7day?
gribble: There are currently 33593.186 bitcoins demanded at or over 31.0 USD, worth 1149514.37586 USD in
total. | Data vintage: 0.0061 seconds
mircea_popescu: wiggzz
that issue is
taken care of by a little insurance premium on oputs issuance
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 37.90000, Best ask: 38.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last
trade: 38.00000, 24 hour volume: 101521.68067860, 24 hour low: 37.90000, 24 hour high: 48.46900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00561
smickles: wiggzz:
the mpbor assumes
the risk of mpex options
wiggzz: but if USDBTC drops
to 1, payout is 20 USD which would be 20 BTC... way more
than required collateral?
smickles: wiggzz:
the additions funds needed would probably come from mpbor