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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the time you have 'failed males' lined up for butchery, it's game over, and no one remembers the internal wank.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd bet they see ~us~ as the outnumbered zulu. not themselves.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: twist: the part of ru that has any kind of intellectual or even biological future -- is the juche.
asciilifeform: not sure how connects ?
asciilifeform: assimilationist ('i'ma go to new york and suck white cock the rest of my days') or irredentist ('i'ma learn to ride horses, shoot rifles, and kill as many of them as i can')
asciilifeform: that there are two basic flavours of how orc reacts to learning about the white man.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am making an observation here, rather than prescription. (teaching tiny and hopelessly outnumbered eastern monkeystans how to kill billion-man enemy -- is above my pay grade)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the sense where 'let! whole world gang up on our tiny country, we will soldier on' it is not a shining success, no.
asciilifeform: su -- maybe 80% juche; 90s ru -- 90% kowtow ; modern ru -- though i observe from afar -- maybe half.
asciilifeform: orc elites tend to fall into 'juche' xor 'kowtow'.
asciilifeform: means 'bow to the great ones'
asciilifeform: i forget the original term, but translates to eng as something like 'kowtow' (originally itself a corruption of chinese word)
asciilifeform: represented by south kr,
asciilifeform: there is an opposite of it, that you don't get to hear about much,
asciilifeform: juche ~= 'we may be savages, and our trucks have wheels with bamboo spokes, but they are OUR trucks'
asciilifeform: alf is not expert on the east, but knows a little of the insider wank, and suspects that it is relevant, so:
asciilifeform: represents one of the possible 'magnetic poles' for a small, unimportant country living next to great empire
asciilifeform: it is thought to be a trademark of north kr, but really goes back to the time of confucius
asciilifeform: CompanionCube: are you familiar with 'juche' ?
asciilifeform: CompanionCube: same reason bush did ?
asciilifeform: before the corpses cold, even.
asciilifeform: sop narrative, the pantsuit folx are automagically 'putler did it'
asciilifeform: 'usg did it!1' 'putler did it!11' etc
asciilifeform: major wank there, also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: day before
asciilifeform: in the end you're just as dead.
asciilifeform: yes, will take you 9001 shots for the roulette revolver to fire.
asciilifeform: running a js is like fucking hiv whore.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: the loading per se, with civilian browser + e.g., selenium, is trivial. the ~cleanup~ (run in vm? restore state how ?) is the tricky bit.
asciilifeform: it's only a 'remote control' for traditional www browser.
asciilifeform: i have a cl interface to selenium written from some years ago, i used it to cheat spammers
asciilifeform: has obvious problems (massive cpu expense, and cleanup)
asciilifeform: selenium + civilian wwwbrowser is 1 way.
asciilifeform: but in practice is monstrously gnarly.
asciilifeform: 'deedbot for arbitrary www links' sounds like the right thing.
asciilifeform: a pill against memory hole.
asciilifeform: that's largely what archivetron was ~for~, to date, neh
asciilifeform: the use of 'flash' to output ~text~ articles -- has, afaik, mercifully, died.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wants to archive browser-tetris ?!
asciilifeform: the actual problem may be something else.
asciilifeform: not sure it ~is~ a problem.
asciilifeform: precisely, it's why asciilifeform has not touched the problem.
asciilifeform: it's the only way to 'perma-archive EXACTLY what plebes see'. supposing that is a design goal.
asciilifeform: which is why i half-seriously suggested 'archiver oughta be a rack of instrumented ipads and ocrtron'
asciilifeform: 'and, bonus! evil TERRORISTS! can't archive it!'
asciilifeform: 'wanna know the output? run this massive turing-complete barrel of shit'
asciilifeform: pdfization, more or less, sounds like.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i have a fairly accurate idea. but last time i opened the reactor cover, at least there was ~1~ copy of truetype shitfest running per box...
asciilifeform: find all copies of it and patch'em all.
asciilifeform: so you catch it there.
asciilifeform: phf: at some point it invokes the truetype engine, neh
asciilifeform: and fuck the display.
asciilifeform: anything that asks a glyph to be drawn on the raster display -- instead ends up creating a 'haha, glyph G was asked for' record.
asciilifeform: machine-wide.
asciilifeform: what if you were to use a patched glyph renderer ?
asciilifeform: could try picking up ~that~, and reusing.
asciilifeform: i wonder what the state of the art for blind folx is.
asciilifeform: it wasn't cheap, or simple, or +ev.
asciilifeform: i (with handful of other folx) once built exactly such a machine, for executing winblowz virii
asciilifeform: but consequently suffers other problems (it is trivially blocked, and is in fact trivially distinguishable in real time from 'civilian' browser)
asciilifeform: yeah, i suspect that it is built along the lines described earlier
asciilifeform: and preferably in a designated public toilet
asciilifeform: the js, if it executes (and to archive heathenry, it generally must) must execute ONCE.
asciilifeform: (today it calls load_party_line_from_washinton() and it gets one thing; tomorrow -- another)
asciilifeform: can be remote-manipulated at a later date.
asciilifeform: i.e. a js-containing turdball is not self-contained
asciilifeform: but ~strictly~ from an archivist's
asciilifeform: and not merely from the 'js 0day' pov !!
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: problem might not have a sane+general solution.
asciilifeform: i don't actually know of a sane way to do this job. which is why i have not ever attempted to do it.
asciilifeform: this would solve the 'blocked ip' problem. but at the same time introduce new ones.
asciilifeform: which l1 folx can then sign and upload.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: imho a more reasonable thing would be a command line thing, a kind of augmented curl, that yields a tarball
asciilifeform: phf: recall, recent lulznews item, a certain lamestream news www uses 100MB/hr while page open
asciilifeform: plenty of things just happily serve up a blank page to the archiver.
asciilifeform: no, no reason it would be obvious
asciilifeform: if you want, whichever, the beobachter, or even 'arse technica', etc -- fuhgetit
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: more and more often.
asciilifeform: lately i've been seeing sites that yield a blank archive.is page.
asciilifeform: phf: this works when it works.
asciilifeform: (turn off js, and the text -- vanishes. store the js without executing -- the archive READER will attempt to load it ! from enemy ! )
asciilifeform: the most egregious heathens ('mainstream media' organs etc) worked quite hard to make their www ~unarchivable, and largely -- succeeded
asciilifeform: rather than to try to get the text out in the customary way.
asciilifeform: i even suspect that the closest thing to a final solution would be the extract a ~bitmap~ from simulated browser, and then embed OCR info !
asciilifeform: the js crapolade problem is also imho serious.
asciilifeform: *irc
asciilifeform: i'd like to see ~less~ reliance on ictronic quasiauthentication, not more.
asciilifeform: there is NO reason to tell him ahead of time.
asciilifeform: 'in channel use' is problematic, because enemy then knows what is being archived.
asciilifeform: astronomical expense under heavy use (and/or abuse)
asciilifeform: in practice there is an immediate problem , long before it gets owned, even
asciilifeform: that'd be the naive implementation , yes
asciilifeform: contents of ram and cpu registers.
asciilifeform: i meant machine state
asciilifeform: no
asciilifeform: ideally you want it running in a qemu-like thing with randomly-generated instruction set. and that reverts to known bitstate on every shot.
asciilifeform: i can think of 1 fairly easy method for rendering (there is , iirc, a 'headless chromium' or something like) but the problem is that if you run it on bare iron, it'll be perma-owned.