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benkay: you're going
to have
to articulate
that argument a little more clearly.
benkay: humility and egoless development will open
the doors
to users
Ukto: they dont have
to have it. :)
Ukto: if its not wanted,
then its not wanted
benkay: missed
the whole lean startup movement
Ukto: and i didnt care if
they were seen in here or not
benkay: if you want
trades seen by max people, publish in places
they'll be seen.
benkay: it's not our problem
to conform
to your preferred implementation
benkay: ukto,
this is your problem for not scoping market standards first
Ukto: burnside:
the get/post api for bf is currently only opened
to 14 ppl and being reworked based on suggestions. debating forcing it all
to websocket at
this point.
burnside: Ukto, can I get api access
to BF?
Ukto: so if
this other person operates
the bot and announces in here
kakobrekla: maybe some fan of yours will make a script
that will listen
to your socket and make posts
Ukto: its like nano said. if bitcoincharts stops updating its lists of exchanges, he would allow workaround
to add new ones
Ukto: but
the sstandard is set in its ways
Ukto: I dont want
to override
the "standard"
kakobrekla: assbot is a standard in #bitcoin-assets , in other rooms
there can be 252 bots having buttsex for all i care
jurov: Ukto, what about
tickers?
Ukto: what if I manualyl paste
them every
time? will i get banned?
Ukto: i mean honestly, can you give me a good reason why different name cant say
the same information?
Ukto: other
than with you hehe
Ukto: im not. just
tired of people whining
that
they cant see
the bf
trades
Ukto: and none of
them
that respond
to
trades in here by jumping on an exchange and
trading because of it
Ukto: 30 ppl who lurk at any given
time
Ukto: if
this channel had 10,000 users i would care more
Ukto: but
that doesnt solve
the ip protection issue
kakobrekla: and it
takes 3 min
to post it
to assbot
Ukto: and fwiw it
took someone 10 minutes
to make a websocket announcing bot.
Ukto: when it comes
to load
Ukto: i punch
those pennies
Ukto: anywho, we were at a crossroads, i didnt want
to custom for your bot because its really a waste of
time when
theres a simple method for it. I paid someone
to make a work around. you say NO for no real reason.
thas
that
kakobrekla: so
the conclusion is Ukto cant afford a post per
trade
Ukto: to lower load on
the servers
Ukto: I was discussing it with
tux as well
Ukto: only
to
the socket network
Ukto: mircea_popescu: i already
todl you
that
mircea_popescu: wait. jhow are you going
to implement ipless websockets ?!
Ukto: and
thts prolly going
to stop honestly
Ukto: and part of
the btc community
Ukto: the server remains behind protection for a reason as not
to have
the ips given out
Ukto: that would never work
then
kakobrekla: if a onliner means 'custom get post script'
then yes
Ukto: specially for your bot
to bang every 5 seconds ?
Ukto: kakobrekla: so you want me
to make a custom GET/POST request script
Ukto: otherwise i dont want
to hear any more complaints about it
Ukto: mircea_popescu: you will need
to join #bitfunder if you want
to see
the
trades if he wont allow it
Ukto: they can do itwhever
the bot is allowed
Ukto: ppl want
to see
trades on irc
Ukto: if
the channel operator doesnt want it
Ukto: just
to make people happy
kakobrekla: you dont care but you care enough
to bring another bot?
Ukto: i
think your beig silly by not letting another bot
TomServo: mircea_popescu: do you have a link
to
the bitcoin-dev summary you're referring
to?
Ukto: i was
trying
to be nice and paid
to have something done
to make people happy
Ukto: and people can watch it
there if
they want
Ukto: if you
tell me no bot in here
Ukto: about
to
turn on websockets for
the browser
mircea_popescu: there will be a
trade freeze, should be no more
than ~10 minutes, will be announced in advance
Ukto: with all
the extra unneeded sql queries
Ukto: caused a laod increase of 5% on
the servers
Ukto: enabling
the 15sec call requests on
the graphs on bf
FabianB: Ukto: how's a push from your system
to assbot 'banging your server'? if i understand it right assbot doesn't pull from your servers
Ukto: do it right
the first
time
Ukto: sorry, but I know how
to create platforms
that dont buckle under load when
they get a large userbase
Ukto: then
the other exchanges should move into
the present
kakobrekla: the
thing is
there is one protocol by which all exchanges go
Ukto: same format for
trade display
Ukto: well now you dont have
to worry
kakobrekla: ill make websocket when you have 10
trades per second consistently
Ukto: and stop using archaic
technology
Ukto: since no one else can get with
the
times
Ukto: i just paid someone
to write it
kakobrekla: its really simple
to implement, just ask
the others.
Ukto: i am not using
their crap
mircea_popescu: atm bitcoin is forked, in
the sense
that some kids are in jerkoff lalaland
Ukto: i
think were better off with btc's
team
than nothing
mircea_popescu: we need an actual
trustworthy bitcoin implementation asap.
mircea_popescu: anyone "upgrading"
to any further crap
they release is irresponsible from a business perspective.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
there's much hope for
the current dev
team, seriously.