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asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu is probably right, the beast has no central nervous system
asciilifeform: solely as 'fleet in being' effect
asciilifeform: a pressed-blockchain aluminum disk set would help to cool the enthusiasm of idiots pushing for 'pruning', 'tx replacement', whichever lunacies crafted for 'let's make'em forget history'
asciilifeform: shinohai: well no. but you oughta have a binder with megatonne of old blox.
asciilifeform: (next-to-last version)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: seems like all they're selling right now is old ones
asciilifeform: drop'em from airplane.
asciilifeform: a pressed disk has quite high nre cost but obscenely low unit cost.
asciilifeform: (and -- paper, when practical.)
asciilifeform: things that have no business ever changing, ought to exist on aluminum disk and mask rom.
asciilifeform: (yes, you will need a stack of disks, what, 15 dvd ? that ain't so much. and it compresses pretty well.)
asciilifeform: i still wonder how come nobody's pressed a disk of blockchain.
asciilifeform: https://www.openbsdstore.com seems to offer cd. strictly 5.9.
asciilifeform: 'Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!' -- openbsd www. lulzy.
asciilifeform: 'penalties. illegal transport: 1 $. not being chinese while doing it : 9,999,999 $ .'
asciilifeform: wassat
asciilifeform: (complete with plush trident, no less.)
asciilifeform: all i have is a plush stuffed freebsd devil -- and only because old gf gave me.
asciilifeform: lulzy/numismatic; i never had a linux/bsd poster, or cd set, or statue, etc
asciilifeform: was there any kind of announcement, e.g. 'we stopped because Nobody Wants and Expensive' ?
asciilifeform: neato!
asciilifeform: to begin with
asciilifeform: incidentally danielpbarron were these actual pressed cd ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: modify in this case means 'flip chosen bits'
asciilifeform: nor with angle grinder.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'modify' with microwave oven ain't the sort of modification i was speaking of, no.
asciilifeform: it laughs at magnetic fields, ionizing radiation, oxygen.
asciilifeform: a stamped aluminum cd is second only to mask rom in longevity (i have cd 30+ yrs old) and immutability.
asciilifeform: this however is not true of a 'burned' disk.
asciilifeform: (it is not in fact practical to modify a pressed aluminum disk, with any current or foreseeable tech. mircea_popescu and asciilifeform had long thread about this at some point)
asciilifeform: and immutable.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: whole ~point~ is that it's expensive.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and yes - just need min qty of, what, 25,000 or so.
asciilifeform: thinkaboutit
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a la lulu is SPECIFICALLY NOT IT
asciilifeform: i find it slightly outrageous that i have a pressed aluminum ratheadlinux from 1990s but not a pressed aluminum gcc4.9 or trb-genesis etc
asciilifeform: evidently
asciilifeform: phf: microshit sponsorship 'grinds slowly but it grinds fine'
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: where i live they pop up on electric traffic signs (that normally warn of jams, or of how many years of jail drunks get, etc)
asciilifeform: so, danielpbarron , what, did it pop up on ALL public channels ?
asciilifeform: (i.e. when nukes had not fallen)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: that must be new, in the old dayz radio/tv stations in usa were fined megabux for switching on the emergency box by accident
asciilifeform: me neither
asciilifeform: while parent -- watches tv
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought the latest fashion is that the ~kid~ plays tetris etc
asciilifeform: 'if this were a REAL emergency...'
asciilifeform: the thing that tells you when the nukes have dropped ?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's a pbs
asciilifeform: this is true since 1992 or so.
asciilifeform: ( a booted up and warm pc, does not use the bios rom for anything at all. other than when you write to it. )
asciilifeform: if you have a very steady hand, and own a plcc puller (fivebux or so, or look in the very bottom of your oldest toolbox) you can do this safely.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: incidentally... if you're a brave man, you can get by without a programmator at all. hot-lift the chip, while box is running, insert blank chip, and reflash.
asciilifeform: shinohai: ftr that thing takes maybe half hour to lay out on breadboard. if you're out of practice.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the relevant article, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1066
asciilifeform: (writing -- harder; some chips have various unlockisms that have to be waltzed through first, or want a programming-voltage, or both)
asciilifeform: ^ read it 'by hand'.
asciilifeform: well, when you find an unsupported rom, there is always the last resort: http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/mwredux/romsucker_large.png + http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/mwredux/romsucker_working.png + http://loper-os.nfshost.com/pub/mwrom/romsucker.tgz ...
asciilifeform: (forget about their software)
asciilifeform: http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/TL866_main.html << vendor www.
asciilifeform: afaik there is no known alternative to tl866 today other than 'spend a kilo$ and use dedicated winblowz box.'
asciilifeform: (it is VERY frustrating when you find that one percent...)
asciilifeform: the chinese tl866 works for ~99% of known eproms, eeproms, GALs, PALs, micros.
asciilifeform: threw it out, no regrets.
asciilifeform: prior to it , i had a massive parallel port thing that needed two dozen jumpers moved when you changed chip types, and only really worked well from an emulated dos session.
asciilifeform: afaik it is the ONLY ONE with documented interface and something like reasonable linux support.
asciilifeform: i recommend TL866 programmator.
asciilifeform: before you experiment with handmade firmware.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: mega-advice from asciilifeform's house of pain : back up the eeprom !!!
asciilifeform: (incidentally if you go coreboot, you don't need a bootloader...)
asciilifeform: but i have nfi what hp has.
asciilifeform: iirc coreboot(linuxbios) had a flag also
asciilifeform: tyan has the option
asciilifeform: it's a thing that has 2 modes, 'ahci' and 'legacy' (or 'compatibility')
asciilifeform: (i suspect that your lilo is not built with 'native' sata support)
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what happens if you set your sata (in bios) to 'legacy' mode ?
asciilifeform: hm.
asciilifeform: ( the raid ? plain sata ? )
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what are you booting from ?
asciilifeform: i.e. true hardware raid.
asciilifeform: and will work just as well (which is -- quite well.)
asciilifeform: or very similar.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i have not tried it personally. but, given the vintage, i suspect that it is same chip as on my 3ware.
asciilifeform: it's a what, lsi chip ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: mine had an empty pad where the raid oughta be, so i have nfi
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: phun phakt : that thing uses a relabeled remake of one of my favourite tyan mobos.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: or are we talking about exotic iron here
asciilifeform: lilo is pretty well documented
asciilifeform: not until game properly over.
asciilifeform: but, upstack : it is not yet clear which the 'failed language' is.
asciilifeform: garbagecollector lol
asciilifeform: if the sun were still shining on the brit empire, and 'no shit , the monkeys are monkeys, we simply haven't gotten around to rendering them for meat and occupying the valuable lands' -- this position would be tenable.
asciilifeform: i dare say, the ones that put on the cock cages ~voluntarily~ -- are.
asciilifeform: which is the 'failed males' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: south kr (or, specifically, the american puppet gov there) was quintessential 'kowtow' : their first dictator was quite equiv. to a figure like quisling, even had a medal personally pinned on him by hirohito -- for hunting partisans in the north (partisans of whom kim the 1st was the chief, incidentally)
asciilifeform: (and is walking around today!!111)
asciilifeform: somewhere in ancient assyria, a great general fell into time warp, went missing !
asciilifeform: it is not yet decided which side was 'failed males, for butcher.'
asciilifeform: was, what, 5 mil . from both sides, approx same, iirc.
asciilifeform: for instance, who butchered which failed males in korean war ?
asciilifeform: subj is about not-quite-dead people.