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mircea_popescu: plus, you should see
the sort of cunt walking on
two feet over hilly belgrade.
mircea_popescu: gotta love
that country,
told
the us +
the eu
to fuck off and has
the bombshells
to prove it.
mircea_popescu: well you can imagine how pissy
the ukrainians were when
the eu decided russians don't need visas
Bugpowder: I
thought
that was
the netherlands or something
Bugpowder: Ah, I am not up
to date on Romania EU unity politics
mircea_popescu: i've not seen more inept foreign policy since
the bush days.
mircea_popescu: and now just fucked
their future with russia on
this move.
mircea_popescu: (such as,
the no visa
thing,
the romania schengen
thingetc)
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder
the
thing is,
the germans fucked up
their eastern europe support by allying with
the russians
bgupta: Seems
that
the majority of Cyriot bank deposits are held by wealthy russians who use Cyprus as a convenient place
to park money in
the eurozone.
Bugpowder: You mean
the news
that
they are going with a 13.5/3.5% split now?
dub: bgupta:
theres been a few references
to getting cyprus'd or 'doing a cyprus'
benkay: many
things go unspoken here
bgupta: Jeez, anyone heard
the news from Cyprus?
benkay: "Set in a wasteland enclosed by a large white wall,
the last survivor from a brutal child internment camp reluctantly
takes on one final bounty hunting job
to protect
the idyllic life he has rebuilt."
benkay: there was a fifth wheel who limped off
to bed
though
benkay: and lord, on second
thought, why?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i passed going
to a shoot
to be here with you all, so...
GoWest: You're right, I don't know
their volume numbers.
mircea_popescu: GoWest you know, if
the donut shop always runs out of donuts i don't conclude
trade is brisk
Bugpowder: everyone
that is selling, is running out
GoWest: It really seems
to have stagnated,
though I
think
the company has potential.
They keep running out of Bitcoins, so obviously business is brisk.
mircea_popescu: i always say, dude, shareholders are
the best advertising you'll ever get.
Bugpowder: GoWest: are you involved with
that?
benkay: meh, jurov, i just wanted
to look at it
Bugpowder: Anyway, besides
those
two issues with
the coffee formatting, it looks good
Bugpowder: I don't need
to read moar btctalk, must read less
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you apparently also missed
the memo on
the gift horse mouthlooking.
Bugpowder: This is were all
the real shit in BTC finance goes down
Bugpowder: GoWest: You have been running your blog and
twitter for how long and didn't know
this channel existed?
Anduck: sorry but it looks like it's from
the 90s
Bugpowder: whereas
the current "Welcome
to MPEx" looks clean
GoWest: ooh I didn't know
this channel existed. Awesome.
Bugpowder: Blue and Black buttons are
terrible.
pizzaman1337: does he mention
that on
the forums somewhere? have a link?
mircea_popescu: in other news, piuk is moving blockchain
towards a proxy model. GOOD.
gribble: #14061 Sun Mar 17 16:24:47 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 $100
Trader Joe's Gift Certificate @ 2.2 BTC (None)
mircea_popescu: ;;buy 1 "$100
Trader Joe's Gift Certificate" at 2.2 BTC
gribble: BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 47.27501, Best ask: 47.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07499, Last
trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 13728.98363142, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.74000, 24 hour vwap: 47.39847
jurov: so it came
to my own machines being paranoid
jurov: Kernel panic - not syncing: grsec: halting
the system due
to suspicious kernel crash caused by root
smickles: there's peeps who have a script
that compares losses
to fees earned since
then, iirc
smickles: jez,
the next volumeous competitior is >10% in size
mircea_popescu: past 3 days
together comes
to like... 20% of chainfork day
Anduck: i'll go with
that 24hour vwap, for start mtgox only
mircea_popescu: if you're looking for somethingelse
then it'd depend on what you;re looking for
smickles: if you
think mpex is a good model, it uses bc,24hprc
mircea_popescu: if you're looking for "least likely
to be unfair
to either party on
the long
term" price,
then i'd go with
the 24hour all-exchange vwap
Anduck: but i
think some avg price is better
Anduck: and i would like
the most accurate price
smickles: Anduck:
that is
the vwap of all exchanges on bitcoincharts
Anduck: whats
the best way
to get btc value
bgupta: I'm guessing one would want
to be a bit careful shorting something like AM since you'd be on
the hook for paying
the btc dividends for
the shares you shorted.
mircea_popescu: (and for
the record, unlike mpex where
the book is actually kept, you have no idea if asicminer sold 400k or 600k or 1.2mn shares in
total)
mircea_popescu: sure, i can't borrow 1/4 of google float, but
that is BECAUSE I DONT HAVE
THE CREDIT
mircea_popescu: bgupta irl i can do
that on plenty shitty 20mn venture by monday morning.
bgupta: you'd like
to borrow 50% of
the outstanding (tradable shares)?? Good luck with
that.
mircea_popescu: no idea about anything whatsoever, from devteam
to
the newest forum member, virtually all clueless as rocks.
mircea_popescu: on
the other hand i'd like
to borrow 100k asicminer shares and
there's no way
to do it, all
the
total volume for
the month is like 1k btc which is what bitbet does ffs
mircea_popescu: you know, it's very funny. all
these idiots were like "o, s.mpoe price is not real!!!111" and yet you can borrow 100mn shares right now if you have
the credit
mircea_popescu: jurov if
there's no market making on
the options
tho...
jurov: i have
to wrap my head around
them first. maybe i'll buy puts instead
bgupta: jurov. I don't
think you can sell naked calls, can you?
jurov: pity
that ukto is "outta here"
jurov: oh
this remind me i wanted
to short am via bf options
bgupta: seems a bit high considering
the uncertainty.. however, it could work out for shareholders if AM can keep
their advantage for a little longer
than expected. (BFL shipping in volume is
the big question mark I guess.)
bgupta: So was looking at
trading in AM, and it seems
their marketcap is ~16-17 million USD? (Using 400,000 shares)
smickles: jurov: in
the 10 min since launch? no confirmed sales yet
smickles: mircea_popescu:
there will be pork in
the minecraft version
smickles: well, basically,
there is a good product now, so I'm putting it out
there. As
time goes on, I'll develop it further, including per platform packaging