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bounce: (don't be too smart reading this magic text, you might go off the scale!)
bounce: anyway, the "hypothetically speaking" was there to say I wanted to know whether there were any real obstacles for those willing -- that many aren't willing we already know.
fluffypony: decimation: yes - politicians *PROMISED* them free housing, free cars, free education, free healthcare, so when they don't get it they complain that the politicians are going back on their promise
decimation: well, and their government doesn't exactly work hard to dibuse them of the notion that they need to depend on them for handouts
mircea_popescu: they think they know shit, is the problem, and they don't see why they should put inb the hard work of reading the logs for a year.
fluffypony: at more than it's worth (so the farmers don't get screwed)
fluffypony: assuming they don't fuck it all up in the interim
mircea_popescu: the only reason this isn't happening right now is that, of course, a nude teenager is not worth money, generally speaking.
fluffypony: also, because of BEE there were a TON of educated white guys from the late 90s till like 2010 who left South Africa because they couldn't get a job
fluffypony: and the thing is, BEE doesn't empower the younger blacks who have had a proper education and gone to university and are willing and able to work hard
fluffypony: government threatened to drop his contracts because he wasn't BEE compliant
fluffypony: the root of the problem here isn't corporations per se. if you go back to the 60s and 70s a lot of blacks were given "Bantu Education", which was the equivalent of like a US Grade 5 or 6
decimation: so, you and your son want to plink with .22 but don't want to blow out ears: must form gun corp
mircea_popescu: that doesn't work afaik
mircea_popescu: afaik (and i have no clue, so don't be shy in disabusing me of false notions) it never happened among black people.
mircea_popescu: ie, they don't have or want or could support a proper restaurant
mircea_popescu: suddenly you don't need zoning laws anymore.
mircea_popescu: solves the problem, cause you can't fucking extinguish fisheries with a line
bounce: so I'd say that the problem looks like corruption and that's got to go. but if you can't even name the problem accurately, then you're spouting nonsense.
fluffypony: thankfully they don't have a phenomenally big following, mostly disgruntled ex-ANC Youth League guys
bounce: those quota are there so the next generation will still be able to fish. if they don't work, make'em work, not speed up the fish' extinction a bit.
asciilifeform wonders if there ever lived a boy who didn't want uboat
moiety: no but makes me look a bit pregnant which doesn't go down so well in a drinking situation fluffypony XD
fluffypony: moiety: as long as you don't shit bricks it's fine
moiety: guiness is like a meal. i can't handle it
moiety: i get like that when ive been grazing too much. don't get up the want for an actual meal
mircea_popescu: i can't be bothered to drink milk. i think maybe the issue is, i've been overfeeding myself
HeySteve: don't have much more detail at this point
mircea_popescu: i can;t imagine a situation where the splitting of the coin is the point of failure.
HeySteve: ok let's say people have a pre-existing arrangement to divide all BTC income. instead of the income going to one person who must be trusted to then distribute it, it goes to this service (which hopefully we don't need to trust)
mircea_popescu: well if you don't know what for, it can't possibly be useful
HeySteve: I don't know, maybe donations or payments depending how the co. is set up
mircea_popescu: if pankkake isn't too pissed off maybe he also adds you to the assimilation
moiety: <mircea_popescu> [...]The Coming Demise of the Altcoins (And What You Can Do to Hasten It) << aw fuck, don't make me go into magic gathering cards now, i just made this thing work.
moiety: <fluffypony> moiety: wife's baking cookies after I showed her your bears << win! how did they go? what kind did she make and has she ever tried shortbread? also can i just say whats wrong with homemaking? D: i don't feel like this would be bad if I were producing things around the house/garden and i could try and make things online.
kakobrekla: take t his http://i.imgur.com/0WZIZv8.png and change "Platinum" to "Anti" or something
kakobrekla: t shirt should say "the first, the biggest, the best." nubbins` go!
HeySteve: nice, now we need the t-shirt
mircea_popescu: wasn't btc banned in china ?
mircea_popescu: i don't like obvious scams, a la doge / aurora / keisercoin / what have you
mircea_popescu: wasn't i defending litecoin earlier on the grounds that it's good to have ?
mircea_popescu: dude that wasn't so much of a try.
fluffypony: and he goes "I'm going to accept Litecoin because it confirms faster, I don't want to keep customers waiting for Bitcoin confirmations"
fluffypony: pankkake: well what if a government outlaws Bitcoin but doesn't mention other cryptocurrencies? or they suddenly start locking people up because they can identify them, and then stuff like this Bytecoin thing with its ring signatures suddenly become appealing to people?
mircea_popescu: anyway, basically that entire article is a poor rewrite of trilema material, by people who aren't quite smart enough or informed enough to be doing it.
mircea_popescu: that can't happen. a tank needs cover.
pankkake: obvious isn't exactly obvious for altcoiners
mircea_popescu: its diff graph hasn't become monotonous yet.
fluffypony: so I don't know enough to form an opinion yet
mircea_popescu: fluffypony apparently you weren't the only one looking at this, and apparently we don't think very much of it.
thestringpuller: i really can't believe i came back from smoking and read that
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "Much like .nobody knows how to make movies. was generally true in Hollywood, .nobody knows how to make Bitcoin businesses. is generally true in Bitcoin." << I wish designers weren't as "uppity" these days. It's surprising that a designer straight out of school thinks they know how to "change the world" better than their predecessors who have been doing it for decades, yet these baby designers ha
thestringpuller: I guess I shouldn't be at this point.
fluffypony: jerbrightcove hasn't tweeted since 2013
ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/5L8gDU5pZq cc ...
danielpbarron: i kept using it even when the 3 key wouldn't work
danielpbarron: is that the nokia brick? I used that thing until it wouldn't charge anymore
danielpbarron: i don't even like mine for the non-sensitive things; it just sucks all-around
fluffypony: the whole "don't eat where you poop" thing
fluffypony: I love my iPhone. but then again, I primarily use it as a phone. I do a bit of browsing and play games and have a bunch of apps of various utility, but I don't use it for anything I would consider sensitive
fluffypony: responsive layouts aren't untrustworthy
danielpbarron: it's all done in your browser but it's still not safe since you have to trust the script served up isn't malicious
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic: http://www.bitfin.com/ << all the people who aren't in Bitcoin finance but would like to be, so rather than join #bitcoin-assets prefer to pretend like they matter instead.
danielpbarron: yeah they don't need the priv key
mircea_popescu: you can verify sigs with the pubkey, you don;'t need the private
fluffypony: I don't get keybase.io
mircea_popescu: if it were up to the users, they wouldn't have the patience for the hambuger order either
fluffypony: yeah, doesn't have to be GPG necessarily
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i don't exactly follow ?
HeySteve: I had an idea to improve security of f2f trades: beforehand buyer signs a contract stating his receiving address. if the buyer gets the coins but doesn't pay (as per security cam), theft is on record
fluffypony: aren't there hospitality licenses/requirements?
fluffypony: thestringpuller: also I don't know if you know this, but BBVA (Spanish bank who bought Simple.com) are pro-Bitcoin, so maybe there will be some interesting integration sometime
mircea_popescu: if ycombinator is allowed to do this, why aren't the crime families ?
fluffypony: I'd hate to have random people I don't know and have never spoken to staying in my house whilst I'm not there
mircea_popescu: between the "you gotta break your lease to use our site" and the "you can't talk to your customers as per our rules", the whole thing should be illegal.
cgcardona_: wow i didn't realize you made the berkshire bet
cgcardona_: mircea_popescu: regarding https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/459941006210007040—first I'd seen it but I don't frequent the site. crazy stuff
asciilifeform: can't speak for kako - i sleep occasionally.
decimation: mircea_popescu: hey, if fags can be married everywhere regardless whether they married, why shouldn't rednecks carry wherever they go. << because rednecks = kulaks http://theden.tv/2014/04/25/rednecks-are-the-new-kulaks/
nubbins`: haven't seen much that's come out in the past decade or so
nubbins`: yeppers. i didn't design the manson poster tho, just printed em
moiety: aw don't get too snowed under, breaks are good! i saw your picture :D loved the heart on the bum.
danielpbarron: maybe i configured something wrong; don't have this problem on my laptop
benkay: "i don't feel comfortable being topless at work."
benkay: i go out, i meet a chick as part of my gadding about the local scene. she's an acceptably well-practiced and hardworking programmer. i like her, we fuck. i can't hire her now basically.
mircea_popescu: on it goes. you gotta have people in the loop or it ain't a thing.
mircea_popescu: yeah, this is exactly the problem we're discussing. you don't understand the subject, but you do have convictions as to what works and how, and what the future will bring.
benkay: fluffypony: i've yet to figure out how to build a DAC i can't rob.
benkay: fluffypony: if i can't list a thing on mpex, i haven't made a good enough thing. there isn't another exchange out there that i'd sully my thing by listing on.
fluffypony: I don't think the tech is fundamentally flawed, I think there's a lot of good stuff and good ideas underlying it all...I just think that anything like that is only really going to be useful in 20+ years when the current banking/regulation systems are significantly different from today
benkay: mircea_popescu: those problems won't stop people from using it to sell seekyoorities
jurov: mircea_popescu: how? if it doesn't have a website that can be shut down and is decently resistant to double spends?
benkay: but they can't even fall into obscurity - noobs are still going to show up and want some return.
mircea_popescu: iirc they weren't very numerous
mircea_popescu: like i go... pls to pay me back 100 btc. you say well... you ain't got 100 btc. how do you know i don't ?
hanbot: benkay hanbot's fine, or hannah, mpoe-pr, whatever. just don't call me eddie-baby. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhnzIO5N30
fluffypony: mike_c: I don't know if you can exclude it in CF's PageRules, never bothered checking, but you can have a subdomain (CNAME / A record) and just turn CF protection off for it
mike_c: fluffypony: surely you can have URL patterns that don't get cloudflared? if not, stats.just-dice.com would work.
fluffypony: yeah except CloudFlare doesn't support anything like that
mike_c: i don't know if i'll go that route though. i hate web scraping.