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tiberiusiv: public
transport is none existant in ontario
tiberiusiv: namworld you must be living in
the middle of nowhere, self sufficient
tiberiusiv: the prices were high for everything
there
Namworld: But
those price you mentions are not representative of what I'm accustomed
to.
tiberiusiv: namworld: you are so full of it im not going
to continue,
the government in canada classifies anyone under 22k a year as poverty
Namworld: But really, from what I know, you're not on 3rd hand clothes or living on fast food on minimum wage. You have plenty of good food, new clothes, decent appartment and eveything on a minimum wage. No car, no vacation. But you have enough money, can spare
to make savings and have sufficient extra money
to spoil yourself a bit.
Namworld: idk about
Toronto because I've never seen
the prices
there.
mircea_popescu: by early
to mid next week. Should be pretty smooth sailing after
that."
tiberiusiv: because you can move
to a warm state and at least have
the climate
tiberiusiv: if you are poor i
think you are better off being poor in US
then canada
Namworld: Although a bit cheaper
than what you say.
Chaang-Noi: lol at prototype, and lol anyone who is shocked at
this,
they claimed
they never had anyhting working, and if
their chip run was bad, ohhh lulz
Namworld: tiberius... I don't know of anybody with a car costing
them 600 per month...
smickles: mircea_popescu: did you fix
that url in 'strategic superiority'
tiberiusiv: you need a car in ontario and
the running cost is high
Namworld: I
think you mean
Toronto, really. Not Ontario...
Namworld: I
thought
the point was about having enough
to live by without living from check
to check
mircea_popescu: romanian cheese is like
the expensive imported french gourmet stuff
mircea_popescu: you can;'t realy compare romanian local cheese
to canadian
tho
dub: well
the fact
that you said river..
smickles: dub: lol, i just need
to look at
the water/land
to know where
the fish are
tiberiusiv: the same standard of life
that you can have with 4,900.00C$ in
Toronto
tiberiusiv: You would need around 6,552.20lei (1,967.29C$) in
Timisoara
to maintain
Namworld: There's
tons of people living on less
than 2k per month
that don't lack anything.
They have plenty of food, decent appartment, everything
they need. You don't need 15k per month
to survive. If you can't live without
that kind of money... well really, I don't know what
to say.
smickles: dub: fishing is awesome, even when since i had enough money
to not have
to do it, i still like pulling a fish out of
the river for dinner
tiberiusiv: toronto for example is more expensive
then NYC
Namworld: I like a little bit of luxury in my diet
tho.
smickles: mircea_popescu: an orange can't be
that hard
to come by
tiberiusiv: man how many
times are you going
to repeat
that
Namworld: tiberius: I can do
the same on 2.5 per day if I wanted on regular groceries...
mircea_popescu: the internet still
the great social class mixer i see, bringing
together
those who otherwise would never meet.
tiberiusiv: for $10 you get enough calories for
the day
smickles: tiberiusiv: i don't know you, but you might benefit by
traveling a little
dub: if you
think eating mcdonals 3 meals a day is living well..
mircea_popescu: meanwhile 15k a year in romania gets you
two households with
their women and children
tiberiusiv: or else you just grinding paycheck
to paycheck
tiberiusiv: namworld: in canada
to live well, ie go on vacation once a year and have stuff you need
to earn 15k a month pretax
tiberiusiv: public
transportation sucks unless its
those 300km/h
trains
jborkl: alot of
the us is
too big for public
transportation
Chaang-Noi: in AU a guy drives a
truck on a mine and makes $150k a year...
Chaang-Noi: in australia shit is crazy high cuz of
the boom, i was
told about 12$ bananas
Namworld: No car on minimum wage, but public
transit, what's wrong with
that?
smickles: yeah, a good part of how i did well on 7.5/hr was
that i cooked my own meals, had a veggie garden
tiberiusiv: namworld: mcdonalds is cheaper
then groceries
Namworld: WTF MAN! You don't need a freakin 1500/month appartment or eat 10$ meals at McD
to survive!
dub: mircea_popescu: I pay a lot more
than
that in mortgage repayments
too
jborkl: realistic lowest wage paid
to a adult is about 11
tiberiusiv: minimum wage in ontario was 10.50+ last
time i was
there
dub: mircea_popescu:
thats business expense not personal
smickles: mircea_popescu: it was a better vehicle
than
the 82 mazda b2000
jborkl: minimun wage pays effective federal
tax
tiberiusiv: namworld: you realize
thats 50% below government povery line?
smickles: plus,
they often refused
to work more
than 20hrs a week
Namworld: 1200 per month... you can live on
that no problem in canada.
smickles: i worke with plenty of people who couldn't manage
their money, in
their case 7.5/hr was not enough
tiberiusiv: up at 6am
to sit in
traffic for 2 hours
Namworld: You can rent for 500 USD/month and have a 80$ monthly pass for public
transit. Minimum wage is 10$ per hour so 400 per week or over 1600 per month. Cut 25% in
taxes.
smickles: the scooter was awesome b/c it had a small enough engine
that
the state considered it a bicycle
tiberiusiv: people were paying 200-400 a month in insurance from 1-2 speeding
tickets lol
tiberiusiv: its impossible
to live in canada without a car
tiberiusiv: namworld: anywhere else you need a car which is impossible
to afford on min wage
Namworld: Well don't go live in fucking
toronto downtown.
tiberiusiv: 500sq ft apartments in
toronto rent for like 1500
Namworld: 1 room appartment is
too costly.
Take a large one with co-tenants
tiberiusiv: in canada you have
to work 1 week @ minimum wage just
to pay for car insurance
smickles: I had a 1 room apt until i had enought
to buy a plot of land and a cheep ass
trailor
Namworld: minimum wage is way more
than needed...
Namworld: Seems odd... I
thought most were on or near minimum wage in most countries.
smickles: there are cigs available w/o
the additives
tiberiusiv: namworld: you cant survive on min wage in
the US
mircea_popescu: i dunno who still smokes ciggarettes with all
the stuff
they add
smickles: i worked at a
taco bell, saved up some money, bought some land
mircea_popescu: it's not very good of course, but it's way better
than any industrial crap.
tiberiusiv: canadian mcdonalds were pretty automated from
the high minimum wage
mircea_popescu: you can just plant your own
tobacco, costs you about 1 cent per leaf or something
TomServo: easily possible once you starting cracking out
the kids