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dub: politicians here go to great lenghts to disguise any religious leaning as it would be political suicide
mircea_popescu: i think this is largely a semantic issue.
dub: because thats crazy talk
dub: your president talks about god giving you rights regularly, we lock people like this up
tiberiusiv: nothing false about that
tiberiusiv: man was given the burden of freedom
mircea_popescu: that's universal tho
dub: smickles reminded me of another hilarity of american constitution, that God started it all
mircea_popescu: kinda how that entire locket tradition got started.
mircea_popescu: as a show that if you fuck this one his daddy's prolly gonna have your arse.
mircea_popescu: towards the mid phase they had invented the habit of putting gold on the kid's necks
dub: you gather support for this law and if enough people agree it becomes one
dub: so in order to protect your kids you propose a law against fucking them
mircea_popescu: largely unresolved by the fall of athens
dub: unfortunately there are old people around that would liek to fuck your kids
mircea_popescu: dub i didn't pick that example by accident. it was pretty much the largest civil issue in greece.
smickles: sounds like 'merica to me
dub: so in general if you have kids you don't want them getting fucked until they are old enough to decide who they want to fuck
smickles: mircea_popescu: the idea was to make the laws in accordance with what the gods wanted, which was decided upon by debate
mircea_popescu: but nobody had the authority to ban smoking, or invent pedophilia as an offense
mircea_popescu: smickles is an entire "law of men / law of gods" issue there
dub: the right to wholesale slaughter each other because you are scared fo the govt you elected
smickles: in the republic, the laws come from the senators
dub: well the bill of rights is a bit of a joke
mod6: it wasn't whimsical to the authors of the constitution and the bill of rights.
mircea_popescu: dub another way to say this would be that your outlook is more grounded in fashion and ignorance than literacy.
dub: well I guess my outlook is more grounded in reality that whimsical language of philosophy
mircea_popescu: the idea of a state without the power to legislate is quite appealing, actually. pretty much the onl;y way "the state" can work is if it can make no laws and raise no taxes.
smickles: convince the soldiers they came from the land
mircea_popescu: in the classical republic the laws were "always there". some mystical origin or whatever.
mircea_popescu: dub they don't, basically.
mircea_popescu: with the unnotable exception of contemporary authors.
mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone agrees democracy = disaster, as in, wrose than tyrrany
mircea_popescu: democracy is where the will of the mob prevails.
mircea_popescu: traditionally the republic is the place where the laws prevail
dub: smickles: maybe according to your schooling
mircea_popescu: i dig the skittles one
mircea_popescu: at which point the show ends.
smickles: dub: that's a republic
mircea_popescu: yeah. and the fate of democracy is for those politicians to observe that they can squander othe people's money.
dub: democracy is when people vote for politicians who in turn vote, in accordance their constituancies wishes, on propsed pieces of legistaltion
mircea_popescu: dub this majority rule thing is no panacea
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mircea_popescu: ahh, i nearly forgot. the moment i've long awaited :
dub: the method of governance is what im interested in, not an arbitrary label but I think no?
smickles: i was under the impression that most 'democracies' are actually republics
smickles: are there any democracies in the world
dub: yeah or democracy, whatever you want to call it
dub: its hopefully not, they act under rules decided by majority
dub: we're just too shit as individuals to make it work
dub: mod6: I recognise the need for governance over human society and an happy to support it
mircea_popescu: indeed that is how profits look
mircea_popescu: a the weekend is coming huh
kakobrekla: a weekend timeout perhaps
mircea_popescu: could this be the end of the climb ?
mod6: (19:58) < dub> because tax is good << trolololo?
kakobrekla: you can judge by the sound if you knock on it
mircea_popescu: he has the hat.
tiberiusiv: how can you tell kako
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tiberiusiv: bet we go into low 60's by tomorrow
dub: has to be reptilian manipulation
mircea_popescu: whodda thunk it, seriously now
dub: the state provides for me, so I provide for them
dub: because tax is good
dub: oh and I'm fine with paying >50% tax and geting free healthcare for it
dub: thats gotta put a few 'muricans into therapy rite?
dub: so yeah; left, green, black and according to some silly chart linked here the other day, in the 1%
dub: dammit people wanting me to be useful on a firday
mod6: (19:46) < smickles> mircea_popescu: and smokers << this is ironic as obama is a smoker
mircea_popescu: ya but those are mostly sociopaths anyway
ThickAsThieves: you forgot the one thing the left hates most
mircea_popescu: and live under the impression that while you walk the earth with the retarded brain of the spanish faithful cca 1500
mircea_popescu: that's the great progrss here : by detaching nigger-ness from skin color, slovenly-sluttyness from cuntal lips and everything from everything else
mod6: haha, yeah the left used to be the ones with the white hoods on
mircea_popescu: they just hate sociopaths and that's all ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, am i the only one amused at the circumstance that the silly left has vanquished all hatespeech, they don't hate niggers, spics or spans anymore
Bowjob: fuck i dont know whats next after trillion
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gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 72.31111, Best ask: 72.40795, Bid-ask spread: 0.09684, Last trade: 72.50000, 24 hour volume: 92454.90765557, 24 hour low: 63.10100, 24 hour high: 74.90000, 24 hour vwap: 69.55651
mircea_popescu: i just hate you cause you're a sociopath that's all
dub: leftie, greenie, nigger.. choose your favorite reason to hate
mircea_popescu: i think dub is a leftie
smickles: or on a seat in the car
smickles: maybe you'll see hoffman's 'steal this book' above it in the window
dub: the driver will be chewing tobacco
dub: you'll find it right next to a confederate flag sticker
mod6: and pretty rare to see. gotta love it.
smickles: this is the first i've seen it
mod6: smickles: i've always had a special place in my heart for anyone who sports that bumper sticker
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155098.msg1656127#msg1656127 o boy watch the silver butthurt nao.
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mircea_popescu: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-21/us-begins-regulating-bitcoin-will-consider-virtual-transactions-money-laundering << basically zerohedge is the new zeroclue ?
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smickles: inser 'I' somewhere in there
smickles: aw, that's no fun, and should reread how that's calculated
mircea_popescu: if someone bought calls when the price was 40 implying 50 they're golden