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gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.78000, Best ask: 57.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 57.85000, 24 hour volume: 94019.67462292, 24 hour low: 57.78000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 67.43441
tiberiusiv: guy offering his house for BTC marked the top
awkorama: proper trolling
cads: Namworld: the yay part is that I panic sold back when things were at my favorite number, 69
tiberiusiv: doubt we see 70 again this year
Bowjob: hey, its a good opportunity to buy now
Diablo-D3: ha ha let them
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.22000, Best ask: 58.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 58.22000, 24 hour volume: 92634.92542725, 24 hour low: 57.80000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 67.57447
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
Namworld: bids remain strong tho yet asks...
cads: <maji> ITS NOT GOING TO STOP
mircea_popescu: it's not liquidity tho, it's sense.
mircea_popescu: if you are the reading sort, the old crypto mail list discussions with satoshi et all are quite informative on many topics
tiberiusiv: no other asset class loses 20-30% in the span of 2hrs
mircea_popescu: have all inbound payments to the same address
mircea_popescu: anyway, as best i can determine the only workable mixer paradigm is what mpex employs :
mircea_popescu: maybe there's parts of that i don't understand, but afaik...
cads: so they work on what is essentially wishful thinking
cads: unless these things give us provable cryptographic guarantees of anonymity, I don't trust it
cads: I need to see a theoretical paper on the function of anonymization mixers too
mircea_popescu: but that's not to say you couldn't if you wanted.
mircea_popescu: well, it's not practical to run 100% security, as is always the case
cads: mircea_popescu: it sounds like your account is not much better. I will have to read the paper for myself and faithfully learn the scheme.
mircea_popescu: as no two addresses are ever going to be joined in inputs
tiberiusiv: that guy offering his house for BTC marked the top
mircea_popescu: if you make one wallet per inbound payment, there's no tracing possible.
mircea_popescu: the devs don't have much of a clue about many things.
cads: mircea_popescu: even the devs claim that bitcoin transactions can be tracked if they're not intractably mixed via a mixer.
mircea_popescu: hence the side channel comment
mircea_popescu: you can run bitcoin in such a manner as to not include more structure than unrelated pairs, ever.
mircea_popescu: cads yes it does have it, but that's optional.
Bowjob: but the fundamentals are exceedingly strong
cads: anyways, that seems like a red herring because the has tree has more structure than the two sets of messages and keys
mircea_popescu: so it's exponential outside of the real of the physically possible.
mircea_popescu: for thermodynamic reasons
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, the particular hashing scheme used by the bitcoin addresses is calculated to be unbruteforceable
mircea_popescu: you'll have to bruteforce.
mircea_popescu: a trolled by his own site is i.
mircea_popescu: what chances do you give yourself to identify which messages were addressed to which keys ?
cads: mircea_popescu: yes, I understand those reasonably well
cads: I definitely do need to read the hashcash papers and the original satoshi paper
cads: so I don't know how much to believe
cads: mircea_popescu: he handwaves his treatment of the block chain
mircea_popescu: options closed just in time i swear.
cads: mircea_popescu: I've read shamir's paper where shamir tracks cashflows from originator to recipient, even through large networks of obfuscation
mircea_popescu: back to 62 huh
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 62.03000, Best ask: 62.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 62.03000, 24 hour volume: 83830.41415795, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 68.41685
mircea_popescu: cads well, how much do you understand about the blockchain ?
Namworld: My pockets farm is producing lots of extra lint this year...
Bowjob: no guns though
cads: mircea_popescu: do you believe that blockchain datamining will at some point begin revealing the identities of the SR early adopters?
mircea_popescu: ok, that does it
cads: Bowjob: surely nothing that's not also available via the torrent sites?
Bowjob: they had banned books, guides on how to make meth, guides about hiding things,
Bowjob: ah, didnt check. the site was too slow for me
mircea_popescu: where you can take nude shots of dressed girls ?
mircea_popescu: do they have one of those now-banned airport scanners
Bowjob: They had interestig stuff.. a cellphone jammer, a gps tracker, hacking ebooks, wireless camera detector.. shit that can get me in trouble
Bowjob: I went to SR today, just to check things out.. You could actually buy candies with it
mircea_popescu: lmao, there's a first chop. http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136402004167.jpg
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 64.05000, Best ask: 64.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 64.30000, 24 hour volume: 79479.64260130, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 68.77207
Namworld: buy bitcoins is pretty much the same tho
Bowjob: my old account didnt work for batch 3 shipment, i guess i have to register again
Bowjob: where did this quote came from
Bowjob: Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast.
TradeFortress_: when the event already happened
mircea_popescu: being the smartest person at nasa is probably softer competition
mircea_popescu: cosidering the forum is btctalk... wow. just wow.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1661314#msg1661314 mpoe-pr wins "dumbest person in this forum award"
Bowjob: honestly, i dont see the ppoint to switching btc for fiat
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 65.00150, Best ask: 65.02193, Bid-ask spread: 0.02043, Last trade: 65.00000, 24 hour volume: 76669.42587939, 24 hour low: 62.02310, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.02867
Bowjob: bull to the rescue i see some buying
mircea_popescu: "Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast."
Bowjob: is this a bull trap
TradeFortress_: yes, 263 to 65
Bowjob: LTC on the other hand
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.59807, Best ask: 64.46880, Bid-ask spread: 0.87073, Last trade: 62.28200, 24 hour volume: 68148.80678210, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.72187
mircea_popescu: is that still open ?
cads: but we might attempt to compute its derivative to see in which direction it's walking?
cads: Wow, this is a rush.
Namworld: We might fluctuate back and forth at the 75 wall until it breaks or buyers get tired.
Bowjob: i bet lucif is partying right now, saying he called this from 3 months ago
Namworld: We were slighlty under 65 some time ago on coinlab and it popped back to 70...
Namworld: and the graph shows a lot of fluctuation. It even shows lower some time ago
Namworld: The previous dip on the 12th before the 50 wall was broken was more massive for a lower value.
Namworld: The day is not completed however. It may still be green by the end of the day.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.00001, Best ask: 66.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 66.30000, 24 hour volume: 66468.13921981, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.81931
mircea_popescu: is that btc peaked at 75, JUST AS S.DICE.
mircea_popescu: the truely funny thing here, and this is a shoutout for all my conspiracy dawgs,
TradeFortress_: and bitinstant too
KRS1: Wow thanks for sharing
mircea_popescu: not terribly accurate, but still, safe.
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress_ i think it's safe to blame the entire coin* fiasco for it.
TradeFortress_: wonder if it's because it's real hard to buy btc right now
Bowjob: number of the beast
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 66.66000, Best ask: 66.99995, Bid-ask spread: 0.33995, Last trade: 66.99997, 24 hour volume: 65609.91092104, 24 hour low: 65.00000, 24 hour high: 73.69900, 24 hour vwap: 69.91589
mircea_popescu: seems like that's a write-off, KRS1
KRS1: im still waiting for my BFL SC I ordered in Aug. anyone know anything about that?
mircea_popescu: me helping out "coding entrepreneurs", whatever the fuck that is now.
KRS1: cads: thats cool idk what you meant ..its all good..just came in for some mt gox market wisdom wanted to sell btc before the market dips as all markets do